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This isn't a failure with the law not being allowed to overstep and forcibly remove medical freedoms from its citizens. This is a failure of the state's (potentially country's) adult education system, that allows the adults to become so uneducated on the subject, that their ignorance has harmed and killed children. This is a failure on the society that built such a system, and allowed it to continue into modern times. This is not a failure of lacking government overreach, but a failure in society as a whole.
not naming numbers for this phenomenon is a bad habit. because yeah, some crazy nutjobs exist in every place. how many are they though?
Are you sure the US is a developed country?
Not idaho
Incarceration rate and lack of healthcare mean it never has been to me but wtf do I know
Religion
It's always a problem, but combining religious stupid with 'Murican stupid is several orders of magnitude more stupid than can be understood by anyone who has an IQ over potato
Potato-powered GladOS had greater reasoning ability. This post is offensive to potatoes.
Idaho is the potato state for a reason. That reason is that potatoes have a longer life expectancy than their children on average.
Clap. Clap. Oh good, they managed to get my slow clap processor into this thing. I hope you’re happy because I’m a potato
The babies that died are horrific, but what really got me was:
Maicy was 16 years old but the size of a third grader: 62 pounds and just shy of 4 feet tall. She had suffered from a constellation of ailments: stomach irritation, severe anemia, erratic menstrual periods, a blocked artery, thickened aorta and thinning hair. An autopsy after she died on New Year’s Day 2019 traced it all back to a benign, treatable pituitary tumor.
She was 16. She should have been chasing boys and living life and enjoying herself and doing all the stuff teenagers do. Instead she watched her peers do this, while her stilted ruined body slowly killed her from the inside. For years she watched herself become something utterly wrong and transformed. That poor fucking girl. A benign, easily treatable pituitary tumor. One easy surgery, and she would have lived a long, healthy life. Instead her parents watched her die and did nothing for years.
They should be in fucking jail.
I wonder if they would go to the hospital for bullet wounds? Has someone tested this theory?
And yet, “pro life”.
F**king hypocrites.
Pro lifers don't give a shit about the post-born. Hypocrisy in name, but their wretchedness is absolutely consistent and comes from the rot in their cores. At least give them credit for being so predictably, reliably awful, and plainly advertising who the enemy is. It's on the rest of us to know and see them for who they are, and do the right things when when they try to do the wrong ones.
At first, I was like 'Fuck Idaho, the cesspool!", but then I did some thinking on the issue. This is probably a symptom of a greater disease: the lack of universal health-insurance. I mean, Idaho has a long history of deregulation, which makes their food and environment a poison; stagnant wages because its Idaho, a long-time Republican mecha; an unaffordable healthcare system, something that plagues this "developed" country; and an insurance system that must prevent covering care because its owned by rich people in a for-profit market. Think on it, we live in a society where someone accused of murder is a hero:
Combine all that and "being tiny" isn't a big enough concern to risk medical bankruptcy.
It would lose an election for any politician saying it, but sometimes the child's rights supersede a parents right to do whatever they want with their kids.
You shouldn't be able to do things like refuse to feed your child, refuse to give your child medical care, or refuse to educate your child.
No. a presidential candidate should absolutely run on that. Child abuse charges for the parents for failure to seek medical help
They'd lose if it were a local position within Idaho. Those same people who didn't wear masks, refuse to vaccinate, refuses care for their child? All those same people are the same people VOTING.
It would be different if it weren't an election in the most brain dead state.
Yeah, it's impressive to find a new low BELOW Florida. At least Florida knows how to pull in tourists. Who the fuck wants to willingly go to Idaho???
I've never agreed with the idea that a child is the property of the parent. The kid has rights, and those should supersede a religious parent who thinks they can replace medicine with prayer.
The nuclear family model, the parents have absolute rights over the child, is as nonsensical as it sounds.
It takes a village and the village should be able to intervene when parents put their child at risk.
Yes but under our current model, I don't know if you want the state owning all the kids. I'm not sure if Trump or nestlé or whatever lobbying firm would decide their future really has their best interest at heart.
Oh I totally agree. I’m an anarchist. Hence why I was careful to say the village and not the state.
Another question asked this morning has me thinking about how my parents treated me as a child. I was sick one time and my parents waited until my ear drums burst before taking me to the doctor. Really it was because someone had came by that morning and saw blood coming out of my ears. I don't think they would have ever taken me to the doctor otherwise.
Remember that Idaho is filled with people who think Utah is too liberal.
Had a gay friend who grew up in Idaho. I was talking to him about how so many states try to pretend there's more to them than their stereotypes. Texans like to say it sn't just cowboys and Mexican food, but Idaho embraces the "Potaotoes" thing and doesn't talk about the rest.
He that when all a state has is potatoes and gun-totin white supremacists, they want you to talk about the potatoes.
I mean shit, logically I knew that but seeing it written out like that is... it's just fucking something.
Well they only care about them until they are born.
They only pretend to care until they're born.
Idaho is filled with fucking nut job people.
The sad thing is that as I understand it Idaho used to be that old school mind your own business libertarians, wherein they were kinda assholes but they had lines and standards. Sometime in the 70s/80s/90s when the whackjobs started getting pressure put on them in the other western states namely California all the fucked up weirdos more or less overran Idaho which caused it to go from culturally similar to rural San Bernardino in morst areas to what it is now. If you want to see a solid microcosm of this with one town look up how one fucked up christofascist mega church has been trying to seize control of Moscow Idaho.
This is so wild to me. Like this is very much - intentionally causing bodily harm to the kid - a reason you should have your kids taken away from you.
I like to remind people that Idaho is a shit hole state.
Lots of white supremacy.
Southern Idaho is full of Mormons. Northern Idaho is full brain damaged people from the extreme amount pollution that the mines caused.
https://www.gonzaga.edu/news-events/stories/the-bunker-hill-mine-fire-lead-poisoning
Idaho and Utah historically had some of the largest and most active KKK memberships. Mormonism is racist by published doctrine (even though recent leadership has attempted to disavow it).
Southern Idaho:
https://www.intermountainhistories.org/items/show/813
Northern Idaho gets a bit more extreme.
Is that the one that straight up had a standoff with police to protect their right to be super racist?
Ruby Ridge was tangentially linked to the group.
That poor child. What a long, painful death just because their parents couldn't be bothered to not be pieces of shits. You can choose whatever you want for yourself, but when you have another life dependent on you then you have to do whatever is necessary to limit their suffering.
When I was a child my mother told me that I had no rights as a human being except the ones she decided I should have until I was a legal adult and could move out of her house.
I haven't spoken to her in years.
The horrors of parental hyperindividualism where personal pride and blind fundie faith exceeds reason.
Mor(m)on faith (lack of) healings
Part of me is outraged and angry at such a travesty.
The other larger part of me can't bring myself to care that these idiots are taking themselves out of the gene pool.
All parts of me are sad knowing that in the end this won't matter because they're just going to full Idiocracy and unfortunately their stupidity will overcome all of us.
Except they aren't taking themselves out of the gene pool
Kangas lost his own wife and their last child during labor 23 years ago. Three of his 65 grandchildren also have died.
65 fucking grandchildren.
Out of the 65, they allowed 3 to be ritualistically sacrificed to their own idiocy. They allowed them to suffer horrifically and die in pain. doing nothing.
I wonder if Kangas would go to the hospital to treat a bullet wound? perhaps we should test this theory
My parents took me to the doctor at the drop of a hat. Of course, this was many years ago, when healthcare was far, far more accessible.
Fuck the filthy rich. They've used their unearned influence and power to twist us against our own children. They're disgusting parasites we'd all be much better off without. Never defend a billionaire, they would never defend you.
Smashing infants on rocks, with more steps. Someone should nab them for "post-birth abortions." "Every life is sacred," allegedly.
I prefer not to read about anything happening in the US. It's always some horrible shit and it makes me depressed.