Anarchism

We're not indiscriminately pro-genai. We don't promote corporate genai. Here's our actual stance. https://wiki.dbzer0.com/divisions-by-zero/the-genai-tag/

Fuck AI. The tool of the tech fascists has no place in freedom from tyranny

"AI" is a tool of the Epstein class. It's inherently hierarchical and anti worker. Antithical to anarchist movements.

FUCK GEN AI. All of you here excusing it or saying "oh its not AI its the corporations can suck my left nut. I may not be a .dbzero user but I am an anarchist and I stand firmly against all forms of AI. The only ethical use is for data sets pertaining to medical and research models that are locally run.

AI is a control tool and if you self host, IMO it reads to me like you want an info slave.

AI is a tool, it can be used without contributing to corporate profits via local models.

I would rather people have the opportunity to use said tool, than to hand it fully over to the ruling class who are already wielding it against us.

There are issues with corporate usage and the environmental damages of all these datacentres popping up all over the globe. That is not an issue with AI itself, but with capitalism and authoritarianism.

Well this thread turned into a shitshow real fast. @CubitOom@infosec.pub are you seeing these comments before they get perma banned?

With these unhinged guys running around, you think I'm the bad guy on Lemmy? lolol What the actual hell... the dude is acting criminally insane in these comments! This person just said they wants us all to die. This is stuff we put up with every day. But I'm a fascist?!

I actually skew toward anarchism, but I'm not really very political. Which may be the reason that I don't feel local AI goes against the spirit of it.

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I don’t use genAI basically at all, but I have experience with machine learning in general. Here’s my take:

Generative AI itself is literally just statistical modeling. Very complicated statistical modeling/prediction but still the same idea as any other method for prediction/classification.

The only problem is how certain models are trained and/or used.

You can (and imo should because it’s fun/interesting) create your own generative AI using responsibly sourced training data and open source code. Is that a crime? Does that hurt anyone? Does that harm society as a whole? No.

The concept of “GenAI” is not the problem. In fact, utilizing it for protien/drug discovery is pretty fucking cool, as is the fact it makes language translation significantly more accessible and accurate.

The problems you listed mostly apply to strictly corporate GenAI models. They are problematic not because they are generative statistical models but because they are built, maintained, controlled, and used by capitalist institutions in a capitalist society which allows them to do any damage they want as long as they can continue ~~bribing politicians~~lining the pockets of investors

For me, I can be against mass scraping, corporate control, bullshit surveillance, or using AI as a replacement for real human interactions without being against generative AI itself.

If someone runs a local model, trains it on public domain or willingly provided data, and keeps control of it themselves, I don't think it conflicts with anarchism all. The bigger issue seems to be who owns the technology, where the data came from, and what it's being used for. All issues that can be solved by running your own local AI model.

This post is written in slop style.

Some people think anarchism is doing whatever you want with no regard for others.