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Arch is different...

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[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What happened with Arch?

Wait, let me update real quick and reboot, brb

[–] zitrone@europe.pub 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the fact that they wrote "be right back" 5 hours ago and then never came back is telling

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Another 13h later, still nothing

[–] zitrone@europe.pub 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

almost 30h now, the arch update has to have bricked their hardware or something O.o

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

Maybe bricked the user too

[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 132 points 3 days ago (6 children)

"No way to prevent this" says only distro where this regularly happens

[–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

News from this year:

  • virtualbox-ext-vnc >= 7.2.12-2 requires manual intervention (package won't install)
  • Active AUR malicious packages incident (the AUR is locked)
  • Arch Linux 2026 Leader Election Results
  • Breaking changes for all users of varnish, which is renamed to vinyl-cache (it's a proxy, only affects servers)
  • kea >= 1:3.0.3-6 update requires manual intervention (dhcp server, affects routers)
  • iptables now defaults to the nft backend (affects pretty much nothing)

Repost.

Also, my Mint install broke, uh, shit I don't remember, 5 times? Arch broke zero times. Zero times not my own fault for forgetting I was installing something and shutting off the computer, of course. Except for the times I tried the fucking installer python script, but since I never even booted the install it doesn't count.

[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Mint broke for you? That's the first I've heard of it.

Also if you have a habit of shutting down the PC during updates, check out atomic/immutable distros. They are almost impossible to break. You can pull the power during an update and it'll be fine.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Mint breaks weirdly often but also it's inconsistent in my experience. It's a great example of it explodes for some people and others it's a god like entity of perfection. Never in-between. Lol

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[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago

Foot-guns are my PROTECTED SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT.

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Arch explicitly says "never do this"

[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 18 points 3 days ago (17 children)

Well yeah and cigarettes tell you not to smoke them

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

To be honest, I'm a firm believer that if it's considered required to read the news file for updating then the update tool should be printing that information for you. I used to have a hook that did it, but it was flaky. Also, I saw the creator mention that due to the design of the hooks, it happens too late in the process for some manual intervention to be done properly. But because everyone in Arch has such an obsession with "no bloat" I doubt we'll ever see pacman have that feature.

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[–] BetterDev@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago

Every hero has a journey.

Yours has just begun.

I warn you, this is not the easy path.

But I urge you to heed the call.

For though there will be trials and tribulations,

soon, my friend, you will own new socks.

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Except the last arch news post is a month ago about virtualbox. I've blindly run pacman -Syu for years without issue

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[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 19 points 3 days ago (5 children)

It's difficult to take people shitting on arch in here seriously. I'll take 1h per year fixing whatever broke over a whole weekend upgrading Debian.

Oh and god forbid you need to compile yourself a package and maybe a few of its dependencies from scratch because that 6 years old bug didn't make it through the freeze last release.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Whole weekend upgrading debian? I am confused. That's not how debian works?

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[–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Debian can take a week to upgrade? Apparently I’m yolo’ing it and just the upgrade. However I have just done one major update, so u might just be lucky

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[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

This hasn't been a thing in years at this point

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 59 points 3 days ago (4 children)

https://archlinux.org/news/virtualbox-ext-vnc-7212-2-requires-manual-intervention/ dont worry you only need to shit your pants if you are using virtual box and dont read (sorry OP)

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[–] katharta@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Idk, I've had installs of Kinoite, Bazzite, and NixOS bork themselves unrecoverably. Arch, if something goofs, more often than not I can work my way back to a working system without wiping.

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[–] inari@piefed.zip 42 points 3 days ago (31 children)

That's why I go for boring distros like Fedora

[–] goobersmash@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 days ago (11 children)

If you want really boring, go for Debian.

[–] mastod0n@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

It's a peaceful life

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[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah i had this happen with devices that originally came with Windows sometimes, mainly laptops. It must be a combo of BIOS, firmware and hardware that increases the chances of update instability. Its just not feasible for every distro to have the same kind of hardware config testing support that Microsoft has for Windows.

Windows spying on you is not just for marketing, they grab your current environment and sanitize the result so they can get a nice list of hardware and application configurations for when they need to test.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why, what news? What I need to be careful this time?

[–] Brewchin@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Nothing. OP is imagining an idiot for imaginary internet points.

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