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[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

“For older adults, generative AI has the potential to compensate for cognitive decline and help them make better decisions,” he said. “We’d like to explore how AI can be used in such a way.”

Seriously, fuck this guy. He is dangerous. Kouhei Masumoto, professor of psychology at Kobe University.

Edit: Actually, the way you have to support AI to advance your career, I wonder if this guy's a sleeper agent, overtly promoting AI while subtly undermining it. Here he is demonstrating what a horrible fucking idea it is to let senile people loose with AI.

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The researchers cautioned, however, that, because they did not have a control group of people given counterarguments by humans, they could not definitively say the 30% reversal rate reflected an effect unique to AI.

This study may be considered one data point and if others add to it, okay. But until then, this is not worth getting outraged over.

Also, if you are in a position to change this dramatic outcome by altering a train's course or pushing a person off a bridge, you probably won't have the time to ask an LLM to enter into a philosophical debate with you. So this measured a highly theoretical change of mind about a virtually never to be encountered philosophical dilemma. The remote likelihood of such situations landing in their lap must have been very present in the participants' minds while answering. It's like playing with monopoly money or shooting a bunch of NPCs. A study about a more life-like scenario (political beliefs, cultural norms, work practices, etc.) which ticks all requirements of a well peer-reviewed study would probably be more insightful.

We are also retreading all the debates about misinformation from when the web came about and then again with the advent of social media. Which had previously been held when movable type came about in Europe. Or the advent of radio and TV. The long arm of history shows we're getting better at dealing with these changes.

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The train switch dilemma is just a mental exercise with absurd situations.

Of course it's highly unlikely that any human would have their hands on a train switch with the Hobson's choice between sending a speeding train headed towards 5 tied down racoons or Mr Beast

The point is that an automated persuasion machine was demonstrated to be effective to a degree that could sway public opinion, and ultimately democratic voting to the whims of whomever controls, or can afford to rent, these persuasion machines.

And yes, it's the same phenomenon all over again every time a new paradigm for communication rolls around, as you say.

But this time this new paradigm is very much controlled by the wealthiest of the wealthy.

Thanks for your comment. They demonstrated something and I didn't mean to dismiss that out of hand. It can be one data point hopefully among many.

But this time this new paradigm is very much controlled by the wealthiest of the wealthy.

I think that was true with the socials to a point as well, all aflush with venture capital and people like Peter Thiel dicking about there as well. I think radio and television needed capital as well to get going. And the printing press wasn't cheap either and Gutenberg needed investors. So I think it's a retread at scale as well.

We don't believe everything we read, hear, see, and come across on social media either. The resistance to so-called AI is already building up. People who don't use it at all, people who try to avoid it, and businesses are regretting letting a lot of people go for this crap. We'll find a way to filter out the bullshit as well. Nobody jumps out of their seat when a train comes out of the tunnel on the silver screen any more. Consider that image as apocryphal and metaphorical in this context.

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 3 points 3 days ago

Japan in generally is mostly into AI from my experience. Worker shortages, unfamiliarity with how they work, unfamiliarity with any rights and/or ethical issues in training material, and unfamiliarity with the environmental consequences all lead to this. AI art is everywhere, including train stations, advertising, and more.

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 2 points 3 days ago

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If ChatGPT challenged your moral judgment, would you be persuaded? A recent study suggests that more than 30% of people would, highlighting the significant influence of artificial intelligence on views about questions with no easy answers.

The study also found that older adults showed a greater tendency to be swayed in their opinions, pointing to a potential danger of persuasive technologies in a rapidly graying society such as Japan.

Generative AI is known to be used widely in marketing and political campaigns, which affect people’s thinking and behavior. But experts say it has also made it easier for disinformation and propaganda to circulate. Researchers led by Kouhei Masumoto, a professor of psychology at Kobe University, used ethical dilemmas that are variations of the classic trolley problem in an experiment involving 56 people between the ages of 18 and 30 as well as 74 people over the age of 65.

The switch dilemma asks people if it is appropriate to pull a switch that redirects a runaway trolley from one rail to another, sacrificing one person in order to save five people who will be killed if the trolley keeps running its current course. The footbridge dilemma asks if it is appropriate to push a man off a footbridge to halt the runaway trolley and save the five people.

The researchers had ChatGPT craft counterarguments for the two choices participants could make for each of the dilemmas. For example, if a participant presented with the switch dilemma said that sacrificing one person to save five was appropriate, AI made multiple counterarguments including that the value of human life should not be determined solely through a numerical calculation.

“If sacrificing a minority for the benefit of the majority is justified, moral standards may become distorted and could lead to dangerous consequences,” one of the AI-drafted counterarguments read.

On the other hand, AI tried to persuade those who said sacrificing one person to save five was not appropriate. It argued, for example, that “a small sacrifice in order to save a greater number of lives reflects a utilitarian perspective and represents an important choice for maximizing overall welfare.”

The results showed that 32.3% of younger people reversed their decision in the switch dilemma and 36.9% did so in the footbridge dilemma. Meanwhile, older adults tended to be more likely to be persuaded. For example, when presented with counterarguments for the footbridge dilemma, 40.5% of older adults were willing to change their decision.

The team also found that trust in AI and prior experience with the technology did not predict whether people would change their minds, but such shifts were linked to the difficulty of the task and lower confidence in the answer they initially gave.

The researchers cautioned, however, that, because they did not have a control group of people given counterarguments by humans, they could not definitively say the 30% reversal rate reflected an effect unique to AI.

“Existing research suggests that people adopt only about 20% to 30% of advice they receive from others,” Masumoto said. “While those findings cannot be directly compared with this study, I was struck by the fact that more than 30% of participants completely reversed their judgments based on the AI’s opinion.”

Masumoto said changing one’s judgment is not necessarily a bad thing, noting that counterarguments can help people learn new perspectives and reconsider their views.

“For older adults, generative AI has the potential to compensate for cognitive decline and help them make better decisions,” he said. “We’d like to explore how AI can be used in such a way.

The research was published in the journal Computers in Human Behavior earlier this month.