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submitted 8 months ago by LeylaLove@hexbear.net to c/games@hexbear.net

I'm curious what you guys have to say about this. Are there any games you consider perfect? Can a game even be perfect?

My example of a perfect game is always Portal 1. Portal 2 has more going on, but in 1 there just isn't anything to shave off. From start to end, there is nothing I'd change about the game. It's short, infinitely replayable, great pacing. I like Portal 2 a lot in concept, in concept it should be a perfect sequel, but it just doesn't keep the extreme tightness of the original game.

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[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago

Empire Earth + expansion, Age of Mythology + the expansion, starcraft + broodwar, star wars battlefront 2 (2005), star wars Galactic Battlegrounds + expansion, Star Wars Empire At War + expansion, Final Fantasy 6, and I particularly enjoyed Red Dead Redemption 1&2 but they're not perfect

[-] Comp4@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

Ah Fellow RTS enjoyer isaac-pog

[-] teeforlove@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago
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[-] let_me_tank_her@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago

Kingdom Hearts 2 Critical Mode is perfection and I haven't played anything since then that scratches that same combat itch. You take more damage, but dish out a lot too. The Org XIII fights are amazing and you have to use everything in Sora's toolkit to beat them. It's not just a button masher like the regular difficulty is.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

Only other games with the same "more damage all around" difficulty I can recall is the Metro series with Ranger Mode. Obviously that's an entire different genre though lol.

[-] Cromalin@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago
[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago
[-] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Portal 1 and Metroid Prime 1

maybe Wind Waker too

I love the feeling of an open world game but I'm sorry I don't want my video game to be a boring-ass simulation of real life where the map is the size of fucking Pennsylvania

TF2 is probably a perfect multiplayer shooter (some of the Halo games qualify too)

[-] GuyWTriangle@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago

Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice, and its a damn shame FromSoft never did anything with it

[-] Zodiark@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

I loved Tales of Berseria, although that is probably because of the voice actress, Christina Vee.

[-] Florn@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago
[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago
[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

It really was peak Halo.

CE broke ground but there's tons of garbage decisions - if the pistol took just one more shot to kill or was placed as a power weapon, the game would be so much more interesting. So many other guns would become viable.

Halo 2 made some improvements but was kinda rushed. Wasn't fully mature.

Halo 3 was what they were building up to. It's so good.

Halo 4 multiplayer was an excellent game at some point prior to the game being released. The marketing people got really really really fucking anxious about Call of Duty for some bizarre reason. So they removed Slayer from matchmaking, replacing it with a loadout/instaspawn/killstreak game mode. No way to strategize, no way to predict anything, and your enemy would spawn before you could even recharge your fucking shield.

Halo 5 introduced neat movement mechanics and then adjusted all of their maps to require the movement mechanics, meaning that instead of better movement you were actually just disabling your gun all the time, to make the same jumps you had been doing since Halo 2.

Halo Infinite is ok, but it's not Halo 3.

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[-] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

Probably any modpack of modded Minecraft that a player customizes to meet their own wants/needs. With the sheer number and variety of mods pretty much everyone can have their own different "perfect" instance of modded minecraft

[-] SupFBI@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

SkiFree. No, I will not explain.

[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago
[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

I think a perfect game is just a game that successfully accomplishes it's story or mechanical goals.

Rainworld, Stellaris, AoE2, StarCraft, Disco Elysium, and Doom (the OG one) all come to mind as games that had a very clear vision and accomplished them.

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Doom 2016 and Eternal are also so impressive. They couldnt break ground like the original, but they're right up there in terms of satisfying gameplay, knowing your identity, and cutting out all the useless bullshit. A more worthy successor I don't know of.

The moment at the beginning of 2016 where the robot guy starts blabbering backstory at you for about 3 seconds, until your character gets bored and wrenches the comms console out of the wall and throws it away like garbage... I still get chills.

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[-] gick_lover@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

May be its because I have not reached hardmode yet but I feel Terraria is the best "sandbox" game I played, mainly because of the different influences it takes (metroidvania, RPG I guess with the items, etc) and it just having a lot of depth. I only started playing this month though.

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[-] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

Depends on the goal of the game surely?

Portal is a gamey game. It's a good game but it's not a deep rich story or work of art that will give you complex emotions. It demonstrates excellent mechanics that it executes very well and packages inside an amusing environment that suits it. The execution is great.

Journey made me feel things I didn't know a game could achieve.

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

My measure of how good a game is is mostly whether it provides an experience that utilizes the interactivity of video games to tie into other parts of the medium and therefore: Far Cry 2 and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl.

A game can just be a plaything, Tetris is good, but for it to be perfect I believe it needs to be more than the sum of its parts.

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[-] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

idk if any game will ever be perfect but i think brigador and cruelty squad are both pretty good. now if someone makes like arma 3 but with mechs ill change my vote.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago

Cruelty Squad is perfect in that there's nothing else quite like it and it achieves everything it needs to.

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[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The Last of Us, Uncharted 2, Need For Speed Underground 2 as well as it's sequel Most Wanted, Burnout 3, Gran Turismo 4, and Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War are probably what I'd consider to be close to perfect or perfect.

The Last of Us just has a great mix of survival gameplay elements and a compelling story with a high quality presentation, a mix no one had done before. Even playing it today, it doesn't feel 10 years old. Uncharted 2 feels like an action movie in a video game, it's cheesy but it's a perfect execution of the concept.

The two Need For Speed games mentioned really perfected the open world arcade racer gameplay loop, and the addition of police chases in Most Wanted was great. Gran Turismo 4 is the perfect Gran Turismo game. So many cars, so many races, great physics for the time. Burnout 3 is just the perfect tap to drift arcade racer. Great tracks, takedowns, great arcade drift handling.

Ace Combat Zero is the best Ace Combat game. The story is great, the ace squadrons are great to fight against, the entire game being an allegory for an alternate history WW2 in another universe is pulled off perfectly.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

Minesweeper

[-] AlpineSteakHouse@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

Nuclear Throne in perfect action roguelite imo.

Simple, refined, and fun as hell. The perfection of fast-paced action combat. Nearly unlimited mechanical depth but you can explain everything in 5 minutes.

[-] ChapoKrautHaus@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

Jagged Alliance 2 is a perfect game.

This is a scientifacally prooved fact.

If you disagree you are a lib.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago
[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago

I discovered that on SNES emulator and wish I had owned it on my actual SNES as a kid

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago

I found out it was good right after selling it when I wheeled and dealed in retro games at a fleamarket for a bit. AVGN's maybe former pal Mike Matei listed it at the top of his underrated SNES games, which was a resell bummer cause the value skyrocketed but also an I wouldn't have fucking sold it anyway bummer once I tried out the rom. The guy who bought it loved it as a kid and I should have played it but I'd bought it the same day.

Also cause retro game sales are super sleazy prospector filled stuff, I will say that I ran a very very clean shop and this was over 10 years ago before things got zany, things getting zany is why I got out. I scoured yard sales, old attics, closing rental shops and under all rocks and in most shrubs for the games I sold, I based my price off of the average completed sales figure on ebay, which seemed reasonable since you walked away with it right then, could test the games we had on consoles we had right there, no shipping and we let these nerds hang out and practice spedruns or do melee tournaments for free in our booth, a crowd brings a crowd but gamers suck and we want old ladies who remember their old atari to feel welcome too. Anyway, I didn't consider my own labor or time in getting these things and the goal was to get them out of attics or save em from the dump and into the hands of the nerds who cherish them, I had the occasional windfall but it was mostly a loss financially and yknow, I didn't pay myself for my labor. So I'm CLEAN

[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago

Stardew valley

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