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I've heard both Melon Husk and Lil' Jeffy Kisses repeat this sentiment. Where do they even get their figure? Something like 120 billion humans have existed, ever, and there has been only one Einstein and one Mozart. 1/120B * 1T = 8.5.

Factor in the widespread nutritional and medical resource shortages that would come along with one trillion humans, and I'm confident that number would drop to zero.

It seems to be that we'd be better off ensuring the future of humanity and focusing on science. Surely it would be quicker to experiment with genetics to grow an Einstein than it would be to implement a trillion-human breeding lottery hoping to find one.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We already have a 1000 mozarts but half of them are starving right now and then out of the other half 80% couldnt pursue their dreams

[–] skibidi@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.

- Steven Jay Gould

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

And Bezos is pushing for genAI, so they will be pushed out by genAI slop.

[–] bullsworth@pawb.social 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

We almost certainly have 1,000 Einsteins and 1,000 Mozarts alive today. A relevant quote from 1979:

"I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops."

-Stephen Jay Gould

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[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Did you guys know it's possible to be rich and also just shut the fuck up?

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (5 children)

You know we already probably have a bunch of Mozarts and Einsteins peeing in bottles to avoid getting dinged while driving Amazon Prime trucks because that's the only way they can get by.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 2 days ago

They're almost certainly is a bunch of geniuses who were never appreciated because they spend their entire lives trying to get food and water because they were unfortunate enough to be born into Ethiopia. We could feed and house and educate these people if we really wanted to, to the benefit of not just themselves, but the entire species if they did turn out to be the next Einstein. Instead the likes of Jeff Bezos go on podcasts and talk about how wonderful the distant future is going to be, while at the same time being utterly unprepared to do anything about the problems we have right now.

Is space Karen actually paid his taxes we probably could build a base on Mars with that money.

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[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 101 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We very literally already have 1000 Motzarts and 1000 Einsteins. They are poor and working in your wearhouses and have no means or free time to pursue the fields they would accel in.

Pay your taxes Jeff.

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They literally could not give a fuck if there's a Mozart out there.

This is the same shit that happened with Nazis. They decided that classical art is the only "real" art and anything that was modern at the time was "degenerate art".

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24819441

They want people that worship the traditional art that fuels nationalism, like Greek statues that are bleached white. They like the idea of classical art, that a perfect homogeneous society existed before them that they can re-achieve.

They hate all varieties of modern art because it's either hard to understand, or it might even conflict with their nationalism.

They want to dip their toes into what they think art should be, not embrace what it is.

[–] marighost@piefed.social 161 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Imagine how many more Mozarts and Einsteins we could have if we removed barriers like poverty and hunger and allowed everyone to have a fair shot at life.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago

Exactly this

We have so much untapped potential in the world because of the system he is a product of. The vast majority of people have to spend most of their time and effort on general survival. There's diminishing amounts of time and effort that average Joe can actually spend on intellectual and artistic pursuits orthogonal to their source of income. Hell, just fucking having hobbies is becoming a bit of a privileged position in 2026, which is frankly a desolate place we've managed to take civilisation.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 days ago

I know a guy who draws absolutely beautiful sketches, and having seen some of the paintings he "dabble with", I'm positive he could make some amazing things.

Unfortunately, all he gets to do is small sketches in his down time, because he works two jobs and has 2 kids.

Imagine how many people have an ideas for something that would make tons of people's lives better, but they can't work on it because they have to go to work and all their energy is spent just trying not to become a statistic...

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

See, that's the thing these guys don't want to understand. There could be a thousand generational talents like that "right fucking now*, who have these enormous gifts and won't ever be able to realize them because they gotta go to their third job so they don't fall behind on rent AGAIN.

Your Uber driver might be a virtuosic violin player who's never realized it because he's never had the opportunity to try. The cashier at Taco Bell might be an amazing painter, who can't afford to paint because every last cent has to go to one bill or another. That kid in Ghana you're watching on the TV charity commercial might be the next talent in rocketry or physics or poetry or any of a dozen other fields if they had a shot.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How many Mozarts and Einsteins are pissing in bottles in your warehouses, Jeff?

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

To put it another way: we don't need a trillion people to find more Master Artists and Master Scientists, we need more Equality of Opportunity and a system that rewards Art and Science, both the very opposite what has made this "gentleman" as rich as he is, of what he promotes with his own words and using the parts of Press he bought and what he tells the politicians he has in this pocked to do.

He is literally one of the biggest individual forces pushing away from the very outcome he claims to want.

The hypocrisy of this asshole and others like him is mind-boggling.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They would say none, because Einstein made it out of the patent office and if you're still stuck in the patent office, you aren't Einstein. Brilliance must always rise to the top. Bezos is at the top, so in his mind he's brilliant. In his mind, there's no world where he isn't who he is today.

Remember there's no empathy or understanding.

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[–] whereitsat@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

modern einstein is trying to develop new ways to keep people hooked on a social media scroll. modern mozart is producing kpop or playing jazz/fusion in some club where they make $40 a night and then dying broke (like allan holdsworth).

but it's true that most great brains probably never develop properly because the system tries its hardest to keep them stupid and in poverty.

the modern media landscape is all nepo babies and what does it get you? it gets you fuck all; everything is pathetic from top to bottom in every single artform but we're acting like shit is normal.

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[–] tigermountain@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stories like these from people like these are always delivered through the lens of what's best for business. This is propaganda.

[–] Napster153@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Also lack of genuine self-awareness on their own true intentions. To them, being greedy is so ingrained they can't see it as a hazard to themselves until its too late.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 47 points 2 days ago

lol, literally the quote by Stephen Jay Gould.

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould#Quotes

[–] WizardArtsPropaganda@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most billionaires are the scums of the world, hording the wealth and spending it on stupid stuff while his employees who do the actual work get little to no credit and are payed much less.

[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Think about how many Einsteins and Mozarts all over the world who he and the other billionaires have killed through their policies and greed

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[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 45 points 3 days ago (5 children)

"I'd love to breed a trillion humans and harvest only the extreme minority of specialized high performers to help me accomplish the things I can't do myself while I ignore the conditions of life for the 99.999% who I don't consider to have any value."

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

yeah but itll be cool because its in space 😃

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[–] isekaihero@ani.social 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I strongly disagree. We need to focus more on quality of life than population. If humanity grows to a trillion people 999.9 billion of us will be living in coffin-sized apartments and eating that runny white goop that fed people in the Matrix.

I would rather have 1 billion humans and everyone lives the American Dream for real.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Humans would find a way to destroy space through greed and corruption.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago

We probably already have thousands of them out there but they never recieved the education they would have needed to unlock their potential and or are too busy surviving in abject poverty to contribute to the advancement of humanity.

Because shitheads like him hoard all the money and do everything they can so others around them are stuck in the poverty trap so they can use them as cheap, desperate and exploitable labor.

[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 3 days ago (3 children)

We have a thousand Mozarts and a thousand Einsteins. Most of them are stuck working at an Amazon warehouse.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago

... and 990 billion cheap, exploitable slaves, of course.

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He says '1000 Einsteins', but surely thinks '1000 Bezoses' because of course he thinks he's a genius, and because there'll be more new faces in the billionaire paedophilic orgies.

I believe he's said that he doesn't listen to music, which makes it even funnier to me. A real, "hello fellow humans" moment from Robo Chromedome.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Human beings can only live abput two years at most in micro gravity. On return after said two years they are effectively paralyzed and have to endure months of physiotherapy just to be able to walk again.

We will never "live" in space or the "solar system", the only place we can live is this planet and anybody telling you otherwise is lying to you.

They do want you in micro gravity though. Besos has on his blue origin website that they plan on having heavy industry in orbit and basically the prols will work in orbit so the planet can remain clean for the rich.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

That's interesting. I think we should have 0 'Jeff Bezos'es in the solar system.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The only reason ghouls like Bezos want a bigger population is because they want more people to exploit, especially artists and scientists.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

So tired of watching these dipshit's fortunes detach them from reality.

The narcissism is so off the charts that the idea of death must be utterly terrifying to them. You know this chode is going to put himself on ice at the end in the hopes he can get a new body in the future without recognizing that the future is going to be a dystopian shithole or arid wasteland.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Assuming some aliens appeared out a thin air and gifted us fusion powered spacecraft and space elevator technology it would still take centuries to get to trillions of humans. These people really do talk utter shit.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm not sure that we ever would. Every country that gets healthcare and a standard of living above abject poverty drops their birthrates. I would hope with fusion power, there wouldn't be a person on (or off) the planet going hungry.

But then again, Jeff Bezos exists, so we'll still end up with 99% of the wealth in the hands of 1%.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I believe the propaganda here is idea that some people are born special, brighter than every one else.

The message here is not that Bezos wants a trillion humans, the message is that the majority of people are not special and will never archive greatness (like him)

Rich people love to think they belong to this special group but it’s not real, all humans have the capacity to archive greatness if only given the resources to not only survive but thrive.

If everyone had acces to free and quality education, healthcare and food we could have more than a thousand Einsteins and Mozarts right now.

Once everyone is able to archive greatness, it becomes the norm, therefore the rich no longer able to justify their wealth by claiming to be geniuses. Helping the poor thrive and become not poor is a direct threat to their ego and status.

Edit: Wholesome to realise i am the fourth person to comment this. Positivity woke!

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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

I hope he clones a trillion of himself and they all end up killing each other fighting for the top spot of best sociopath in the solar system.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

$0.02: above average intelligence is abundant. The opportunities and support that enable those people to achieve greatness (read: privilege), are not. This situation will only get worse with the like of Bezos squeezing the people that work for them. This "1000 Mozarts" line only serves to illustrate how intellectually bankrupt this person is.

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