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[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is what happens when you call everything socialism.

Yeah, the American "definition" of socialism often seems to just be everything left of fascism these days. It's really weird how America has weaponized the term.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

soooooooooooooooooooo true

not that socialism, no no no, the other cool one with all the stuff i like

why don't they specify DSA socialism and MAGA capitalism, that would be useful information

[–] ajoebyanyothername@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

I think you mean nearly half of democrats don't view socialism positively.

[–] stretch2m@infosec.pub 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I sure wish they'd stop calling it socialism. But anyway, don't you just want to shake those "no opinion" people? How can you have no fucking opinion?

[–] hoppeduponcoffee@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If they take these polls via texts/mobile calls, that could be a portion of people they contact who don’t respond or decline to participate.

Regardless, I don’t trust polls anyway, especially when all of this is going to be used to justify the insurrection act anyway.

[–] lemmy_at_em@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

This is why we should rely only on prediction markets. Polling is an outdated technology.

/s

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And Jeffries took that personally.

[–] lemmy_at_em@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I take Jeffries personally.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

To be honest, most Americans have no idea what socialism is.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That sounds like socialism to me

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Very nearly communism.

[–] lemmy_at_em@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

That would be communistic in nature And I hear that that's against nature.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder how much such polls are going to be used by the Maga fascists to justify election interference and a new red scare.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder when you start fighting back

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry for assuming, but no I didn't mean you specifically, I meant normie Americans.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

are you a normie USian? Are you doing something? Please share with the class what youve been up to, to help out.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No. I'm not. Your president has threatened to invade my country. Death to America.

[–] 2hundredpancakes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nonconfrontational

looks inside

"death to x"

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago

A couple of weeks ago, it was at about 3O%. The Citizens are tired of waiting for the parties to serve them properly, and are quickly carving their own political path. The parties better figure this out, and either get on board, or get out of the way, because we're no longer taking orders from them.

We're in control now, and they will serve at our pleasure, so..."What have you done for us LATELY?"

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I watched the video to get an idea of what they were asking.

I'd be curious to see what the support was for the actual policies that are being labeled as socialism.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

94% of democrats viewed Harris positively during the 2024 election.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you saying between two options, she was worse than Trump? She most definitely was positive amongst other options.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What I’m saying is she didn’t win at 94% so how are socialists going to at 58%?

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

Polls on views of an ideology and party polls of a candidate are a bit different.

Regardless, these are real views from people who respond to polling opportunities, so they will most likely vote in kind.

You can absolutely make the argument that the sample size is too small to get an accurate read on how the US would vote in a presidential run, but it is not really a reason to say that DSA candidates will never win.

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[–] wyrmsbane@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Harris was a victim of both sexism and racism in the voting process. A sad truth in the world we live in. You take those out of the picture when presenting socialism, and there might be a fighting chance.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Brother, a black man with the middle name of Hussein won a presidential election.

Yes, racism and mysogyny were challenges in the 2024 race, but it was the Democratic policy that was the primary issue.

Look at what Obama offered in his race and compare it to what Kamala offered in her race. That lack of promise accompanied with her refusal to split from Biden on foreign policy (Gaza) was enough to both not draw in enough voters and push some over to Trump.

Take a look at Trump's policies as well. We who are here know he was lying, but to the uneducated voter, it sounded good enough to vote for over the other candidate.

[–] wyrmsbane@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I agree. I was just pointing out the (still existing) racism and sexism present in the US voting system.

[–] wyrmsbane@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

There is no way that is true. Harris sucked, and I voted for her. It's the other choice that was far, far worse. Dems were basically forced at gunpoint to vote Harris.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No I’m pretty sure those were the democrats who viewed her favorably.

Who was the other democratic candidate?

Finally the sane people actually expressing opinions?

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

That's disgustingly low. You're a nation of formerly well kept slaves.

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My family grew up in pure socialism. It's pretty shitty. Not defending capitalism, but I rather take capitalism over socialism anyday.

We honestly just need money out of politics. Overturn citizens united.

My family grew up in pure capitalism. It's pretty shitty. Not defending socialism, but I'd rather take socialism over capitalism any day.

We honestly just need social policies out of politics. Overturn universal healthcare.