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The lack of a U.S. carrier in the Pacific may be short-lived if the Navy deploys another in the next couple of months. But it shows how the open-ended operations with Iran are running some American sailors ragged, analysts say, while the Trump administration further retreats from the Asia-Pacific region and focuses on the Western Hemisphere.

“The administration says that the Pacific is supposed to be the most important behind the Western Hemisphere,” said Greg Poling, director of the Southeast Asia Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Instead, the U.S. is “doing the exact opposite” of its previously expressed goal of pulling out of the Middle East.

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[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 56 points 6 days ago

Bye Taiwan, so long and thanks for all the chipsets.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If Iran can run the Navy ragged, imagine what India or China can do

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (5 children)

So much of the joke is that they won't need to.

唯一的制胜之策就是不参与

[–] NegentropicBoy@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Translated to be “The only winning move is not to play.”

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago

oh the empire is coming to murder me instead.

awesome.

[–] _chris@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Man, all this is doing is showing any potential enemies just how fucking toothless the US is. Amazing show.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

this. its amazing how quickly he gutted us to the point we are a paper tiger.

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 7 points 5 days ago

Thats hunny to his ears.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

Exposed flank. These guys are not MI (military intelligence), they are AI (alternative intelligence). Oh, stinky pete what have you wrought?

[–] metermatic26@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Leaders around the world are treating the US military defeat against Iran as a given and are planning for a future that does not include the US in any decisive role.

The current response of the nations in the Middle East is telling: plans are being drawn up and security cooperations being forged, while pretty much ignoring the US altogether.

Its likely a precursor for what we’ll see happen with nations surrounding the Sea of Japan and South China Sea in the upcoming months.

The largest, most powerful nation on earth has literally botched this war. Militarily, politically and economically. And as a result we’re now witnessing the US led global world order unravel completely. I think we’ve entered a very scary time.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 4 days ago

The US hasn't won a war since WWIi, and our current leaders are literally the dumbest people who have ever managed a government. Nobody fears, or cares about America any more.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

botched

It was never winnable. No western nation would have won against Iran. The war is the dumbest war to begin with because of how unwinnable it was. Why are people acting as if Trump could have outsmarted Iran at any point ever? No NATO military leader would have won. The best choice for anyone is to just not start a war with Iran. A smart leader would have just not bombed Iran. No smart leader could win this war. That's how stupid the war is. The smartest NATO leader right now, if they were fighting a war with Iran, would admit defeat.

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

well, it might be smart to take taiwan now, even with the worldwide upset this would cause.
There is a good chance that the west has no answer to it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

it might be smart to take taiwan now

Or just peacefully integrate socio-economically over the next 50 years. You kill a lot less people that way

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago (8 children)

China seems to be forgoing the peaceful, long term route as of late.

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The point of having 11 carrier is that you can always have several of them in maintenance while others are in operation and still keep a reserve. It's a massive mismanagement of assets to somehow have carriers running ragged and yet still need to pull carrier from other commitments.

Can't even be competently evil. Yee yee ass Wana be evil empire.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (30 children)

No one expects China to invade Taiwan because an American aircraft carrier has left the region. But the carrier’s absence gives the Chinese another opportunity to show its strength, said Bryan Clark, a former Navy submariner who is a defense analyst at the Hudson Institute.

Uh, fucking, I DO!

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Dude is literally acting like the manchurian candidate

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Manchurian Candidate: (intelligently acts on codewords after sophisticated brainwashing)

Donchurian Candidate: "Oh hey Pooty how's it hangin. Sabotage an American institution? Another one? How much money? Sounds like a deal. A great deal. Biglyest deal."

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[–] oyzmo@piefed.social 12 points 6 days ago (10 children)

Taiwan is free for China - ram prices are going to go through the roof - don't understand how trumptydumpty's tech friends allowed him to do this. Oh well, the world may become a better place with China in the captain's seat; Xi at least seems more intelligent and stable than Trump.

[–] djmikeale@feddit.dk 6 points 5 days ago

Additionally, if China takes Taiwan, they'll be able to exert heavy influence on Korea and Japan, as a huge part of their import/export flows through Taiwan Strait. Might be able to get the countries to cut down on diplomatic relations with the West, perhaps even getting rid of a few of USA's military bases in Japan and South Korea

[–] barryamelton@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

China takes Taiwan - ram prices will go through the roof - don’t understand how trumptydumpty’s tech friends allowed him to do This

Because USA tech friends want that: they want the trillion profits from squeezing the worker class out of the means of compute. Once we are all slaves we will pay back the dividends tenfold. They don't care about China or Taiwan, they only care about China's and Taiwan's billionaire class, which is with them anyways.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 4 points 5 days ago

Iran has become a black hole that also slaps the shit out of the Orange Jackass. How multifaceted.

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