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Automated License Plate Readers (ALPRs) are AI-powered cameras that capture and analyze images of all passing vehicles, storing details like your car’s location, date, and time. They also capture your car’s make, model, color, and identifying features such as dents, roof racks, and bumper stickers, often turning these into searchable data points. These cameras collect data on millions of vehicles—regardless of whether the driver is suspected of a crime. While these systems can be useful for tracking stolen cars or wanted individuals, they are mostly used to track the movements of innocent people.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

people should be aware of AXON cameras too.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 18 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

The municipalities are allowing it and the police are gobbling them up. As someone commented below, a fucking Ring camera is near identical to a Flock. In the near future, I'm certain Ring will also offer a camera, with options, that will read your ass.

[–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They already do gait analysis. It's not a leap to assume that Amazon can identify you from the motion of your ass as you walk.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They already do gait analysis

Are you sure? As far as I've seen that's just pop sci-fi bullshit that has never been proven to work in the real world.

[–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This is an interesting read: https://recfaces.com/articles/what-is-gait-recognition

You can do it at home with open-source software like OpenCV. The world's largest companies that have been collecting and analyzing surveillance data for more than a decade are now desperate to find profitable use cases for their "AI"...

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This paper makes it sound like it's still basically guesswork. It's a lot like lie detector tests. They don't really work, but maybe they can be somewhat useful tools when combined with lots of other things?

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I want to preface this with: I agree with you.

But the success of most things algorithm related are nowhere near 100%. Look at facial recognition, or even fingerprint recognition. There are false positives, to the point that innocent people have been convicted on them.

All tech has a margin of error, and it’s us idiots (meaning humans in general) that place an oversized trust in it.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

There's a difference between things that are based in sound science but aren't 100% accurate, and things that are based on, at best, untested hypotheses.

I'd put gait analysis along with things like bite mark analysis, phrenology, etc. The appropriate level of trust in it is near zero percent. But, largely because it's expensive, people convince themselves that something that expensive has to work. It's similar to a lie detector test. They strap so many different things to you to measure your body, and have an expert in the machine who studies what's happening. That leads people to believe that it has to work, at least a bit. But, there's a reason why lie detector tests are generally not admissible in court. Even though they genuinely can tell... something, the potential for them to be misunderstood by the jury is too high for them to be allowed into evidence.

[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 17 hours ago

The fact that your HOA is surveiling your house and its residents is disgusting enough to at least meet with an attorney, IMHO. 🖖🏼

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 54 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

When I was house-shopping, I refused to look at any house that was in an HOA.

[–] Nefara@lemmy.world 31 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Some HOA's are literally just to pay for the maintenance of a shared private drive, which IMO is reasonable, but we explicitly refused to make any offers or consider any homes in HOA's which didn't let us see their charter. Interestingly enough, that was all of them... makes you think.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 17 hours ago

Where I'm from, the board has to make all documentation and meeting minutes available to people considering purchasing.

And it's a damn good thing they do, I've had friends discover some pretty expensive things that were lurking in the wings for future costs, like mold abatement and foundation problems.

What you don’t want to pay a surcharge every month for the privilege to fund a micro government focused on harassing its constituents?

Ya fuck HOAs

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 11 points 18 hours ago

This is my number one requirement.

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[–] Gaja0@lemmy.zip 19 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I went to the the pool yesterday with my toddler and noticed a flock camera pointed at the pool entrance. Fucking perverts.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

Whatever spying cops are doing, HOA busybodies are doing it worse.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They absolutely do. If I were forced to buy in an HOA, thankfully I wasn't, I would never buy HOA+cameras.

[–] limelight79@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I used to live in a condo and sometimes went to the HOA meetings. One time they were discussing a couple vehicle thefts that had happened in our parking lot, and whether they should allow the local police to patrol the lot (noting that the police could also ticket cars that, say, had expired registrations, too - it wouldn't necessarily just catch theft). It was a pretty good discussion of the pros and cons, though one guy was screeching about having a police state.

Then, a few topics later, in the same meeting, there was a discussion about a proposal to install cameras that would take pictures of all cars coming and going out of the lot. Guess who was strongly in favor of that.

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago

Insert "at least it's not gubbermint" gadsen flag with Flock, Ring, Axon, Motorola, and Palantir on the boot crushing the snake

[–] grayclouds@lemmy.world 20 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Flock cameras make it look like there's a lot of crime in the area

[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That's because their presence alludes to anyone being a secret criminal, even your neighbors. 🤮 Watch out next for the armbands.

[–] grayclouds@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

They're already soft launching this with trans people's ID's

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 33 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Regardless of whether flock cameras are deployed or not, I can't figure out why anyone would be looking to buy into an HOA community.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

My friend bought a house in a good neighborhood with "good HOA". Half a year later they went on vacation and while they were away, hoa people entered his yard with a key that they apparently have without informing him, and cut down a beautiful cherry blossom tree in his yard, then sent him a bill for a removal, with the explaination that the tree had "incorrect leaf density".

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 6 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Your friend should have sued the fuck out of them. If that tree was more than a few years old they could have been looking at 6 figures in damages

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[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

I'd rather live in a tent.

No matter how "good" HOA may seem... It will go to shit and and you will get fucked. It's not if, it is when.

You may get lucky for a few years, but eventually like Russian roulette, you will lose big.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 42 points 1 day ago (4 children)

also ring cameras are spying too. i see them still installed in most houses.

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