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Title says it. Is anyone still on the newsgroups? For reasons I need to amass a large collection of music in MP3 format, preferably full albums, and I'd like to do it somewhat quickly. Is there a better place to hunt before I buy news server access? I been on land for too many years.

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[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Usenet is still very much a thing.

I use Eweka.nl (Usenet access) and NZBGeek (indexer). Works well.

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

DrunkenSlug is another great indexer, invite only and about $30 USD per year for their top offering.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I've been using them for a few years now. Smooth as butter.

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[–] dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I use it exclusively. I think it's better than worrying about torrents. It almost feels obfuscated with the indexer.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I haven't used usenet for 15 years or so. After nzbindex chucked it in.

What's the situation with incompletes / DMCA'd releases?

Is one usenet subscription enough or do you have 2 monthly subscriptions? do you need a block account ?

[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

I previously has a subscription last year (just one provider) and had sooo many incompletes. It was barely usable.

I recently set it all up properly and I haven't had a single issue, even finding old movies with no issue. I have a provider, an indexer, and a cheap block account on a different backbone to fill the gaps. It works like absolute butter.

Sonarr, radarr, prowlarr, SAB and all that ... do it right and it's amazing.

[–] Pacers31Colts18@piefed.social 12 points 2 days ago

Usenet is all I use... highly recommend it.

[–] ergonomic_importer@piefed.ca 20 points 2 days ago

Usenet is still very much alive.

For music, I use Lidarr (along with the rest of the arr stack) and Headphones as an indexer.

It doesn't have absolutely everything that I want but enough to make it worth the price.

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have not used torrents in years after discovering usenet. You can find the most obscure stuff that is impossible to find on torrents. Plus you are not dependent on seeders, nor do you have to seed yourself. Or the frustration that the torrent stops at 99% and you still can't play. And to top it off the speed is amazing.

I do want to give a shout out to Kevin who developed the NZB360 app. It's the best app for usenet and my most used app on my phone.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

I've actually never used torrents. Had newsgroups access years ago, but I think I am going to try soulseek for now.

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know Usenet is still alive and well for video, at least. Check out soulseek for music downloads if you want to try avoiding a subscription.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 days ago

slsk would also be my recommendation for music, though I'm not sure I can recommend in good faith leeching a bunch of music all at once. Unless it's a pretty even split amongst source users, and OP intends to share afterwards.

[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

After struggling previously to get it set up, I have everything set up with Radarr, Sonarr, and SAB and I have yet to not find something. It's sooooo good. BUT, you need to set it up specifically.

[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

lots of people using Usenet.

I have 2 main servers on 2 different networks, but some block accounts as backup and a couple of indexers.

But for music, especially if its anything unusual, rare, or otherwise difficult to locate elsewhere, get onto soulseek. I use N+ personally and have uploaded ~80TB this year so far and downloaded about 600Gb. I dont do torrents very often so SLSK is how I give back to the community.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago

That sounds like a great place to start! Many thanks, matey!

[–] wax@feddit.nu 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What's the benefit of usenet over torrents?

[–] Thorman@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)
  1. Generally don't need a VPN with usenet because according to isp providers it's general downloaded content with encryption so they don't see what you're downloading

  2. speed depends on your provider, not seeder counts, meaning that it's generally much more consistant speeds and can easily reach multi gigabit

  3. don't need to worry about seeding at all, instead you have two caps to worry about that reset daily for indexes, api hits and download counts. Generally you get a couple thousand api hits for third party apps or your Starr apps and a few hundred downloads per day.

  4. older content is generally easier to find on usenet because there is no inactivity deletion due to lack of seeders like on private torrent trackers. The only limitation is your providers retention time generally in the thousands of days range

The one major downside of usenet over torrents is that you pay for access either monthly, yearly, or lifetime for both the provider and the indexer.

And you do need both because the providers give you the ability to download the files and the indexers host the files. So if you have just an indexer you can see the files but not download them or if you have just a provider you have the ability to download the files but can't find any files to download.

Hope this helps!

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

This is great info, going to add Usenet toy system

[–] wax@feddit.nu 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thanks for the summary. How are usenet providers not sued into oblivion for storing copyrighted data?

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

It's like any file storage site. They are only a web server. Users upload things. And the owner of the server, if requested, may take it down. It's a game of wackamole.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

It's not significant enough for anyone to care.

[–] JohnBrownsBawdy@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks. Last time I used Usenet it was through easynews. Not sure if there are better options now. What providers and indexers do folks generally recommend?

[–] BottleBoardBakon@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

Uses encryption so you can't be dinged by copyright trolls, high speed downloads (usually), easier automation and higher quality control.

Only note is that it isn't free.

[–] HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You get to sit through interviews, possibly get to pay for access and have to deal with gatekeepers.

Joking aside, theres some variety in the selection. In my experience, torrents have excellent selection of mainstream and well known artist, not so much with smaller, niche and local artists. Soulseeks fills that hole nicely. Some friends of mine who use usenet have reported that when you need to find that one EP from that one band that existed for 4 months in 1978, you have good chances of doing that there.

For me, its not worth the effort and trouble getting things set up and getting in to a server. Others will disagree and tell you its the best thing since recording C-cassette tapes for your friends.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I was under the impression Usenet was a BBS from the past, with designated port and server software, but people in the comments pay to use it as a P2P network?

How does it compare to soulseek?

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Usenet was much more than a BBS from the past, in the sense that nearly everyone subscribed/participated in it. It was NNTP way back when, but tens of thousands of computers would sync all those messages at every node. By the late 80's you even had binaries.

But then it all changed, and those nodes today are just corporate server farms and have really nothing to do with what Usenet was except name only. So yes, people pay to use a corporate node.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't tried soulseek, just learned about it from the replies to this thread. Last time I saw the newsgroups was almost 29 years ago. I'm definitely going to give soulseek a shot.

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[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

Usenet actually has a very similar design to Lemmy. In fact I sometimes wonder why Lemmy didn't evolve the Usenet protocol rather than invent one from scratch.

It's a big discussion forum organized into a tree-like topic structure, replicated across multiple servers, and any participant can contribute via any of the servers.

[–] micro@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I use soulseek for music full albums.

ever since i discovered soulseek has so many live radio recordings from the 70s and 80s i've been obsessed.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Yes.

I get my music from slsk though, try nicotine+ (client for soulseek).

Thanks for reminding me to hunt for that one japanese album I can't find anywhere on usenet though, that's the only place I haven't looked. Can't even buy a physical copy (and would be willing, I've been looking so long).

E: OH but be warned, put some files in your slsk share folder before you download, and you can also re-share your downloads folder. Some losers have auto-ban scripts for people "not sharing" which is mostly new people (though they're too dumb to realize that). Just throw a few albums in your "share" folder (and set that up in settings,) you'll bypass them. Also, would VPN, preferably with port forwarding but beggars can't be choosers.

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[–] 503@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I predominantly use Usenet for procuring all my media, except for

  1. Switch ROMs, which I rely on torrents via NSWTL. I have 4 indexers and all of them give me “missing parts” error when I try to download Switch ROMs.
  2. Music, which I rely on Telegram bots. I am in the process of migrating my streaming library to Navidrome and I haven’t found a better workflow than to send a playlist link to the bot, and downloading the music and then tagging it using Picard.
[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

could you share the telegram bot you use? used to use some but they got banned some time ago

[–] 503@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sure. It is called deezload2bot. Found it on fmhy.net.

[–] retro@infosec.pub 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The missing parts sounds like a provider issue, not an indexer one. Do you have a backup block on a different backbone?

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[–] crunchpaste@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A few months ago I needed a lot of music (flacs in my case) and while to can find almost anything on soulseek (including some amazing vinyl rips) some niche artists were missing.

So what I did is I made a free trial account on deezer, got everything I needed during the free month using this deezer scraper and cancelled the trial before it ended.

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[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 9 points 2 days ago

Wow, that brings back memories

i miss rec.sport.pro-wrestling.fantasy T_T

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago

for music theres also soulseek, or ripping from streaming platforms (deezer/tidal/qobuz)

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Hell yeah. It's good to have as an alt source in an arr-stack setup. I prioritise torrent since that helps folks who don't/can't pay but it's there when TL falls or smth.

[–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 4 points 2 days ago

Yep. Exclusively.

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