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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 133 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, if it's the same price why the hell would you not stay in a hotel instead of "pretend this random house is a hotel, but now with the added magic of no regulation"

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (6 children)
[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (4 children)

"Oops, left a mess (had a crumb on the counter). $350 cleaning fee."

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

People always say this, but I've never run into any issues. Booking a cabin for the family or a week long stay through airbnb can still be the more cost effective option.

I always read the reviews and rules in depth before booking. The types of places that will pull what you describe usually are pretty apparent.

Obviously it's still fucked that I the consumer have to go through all of that when Airbnb could just make some standards, but oh well.

Personally now I avoid Airbnbs except for the two cases I mentioned. Groups and extended stays. Yes extended stay hotels do exist too, but they are hit and miss imo.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 13 points 1 week ago

Ive stayed in Airbnbs like 20 times in many cities, different states, even different countries. Literally have never had any issues like what people complain about whatsoever. My cat even scratched up an (admittedly already somewhat roughed up) couch at one, not terribly but it was damaged, and the guy didnt charge me anything at all.

The only issue I take with airbnbs is that there are so many that should be free market rentals or family housing rather than short term rentals

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's why I always leave a tip (what others call an "upper decker").

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[–] tuxiqae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A kitchen and other amenities are a big reason

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[–] shirasho@feddit.online 133 points 1 week ago (2 children)

AirBnb became popular when hotels inflated prices around certain events or were at capacity. Since then, AirBnb owners have jacked up prices to be more expensive than hotels, and you have to deal with the "landlord attitude." It turned from a genuine service into another cash grab scheme.

[–] Senseless@feddit.org 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And it also uses apartments that could've been regularly rented, worsening the housing crisis.

[–] DillDough@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago

That applies to houses as well lol. For all of it, it goes even deeper too. It's not just that buildings that were going to be rented are now airbnbs, but that another avenue of revenue is once again tied to hoarding livable buildings with no plans of residing in them.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

Enshittification strikes again!

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don't forget having to find the cameras watching you, and text messages every 38 minutes telling you to leave 5 star reviews.

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago

For sure, people think they know where to put the cameras for the best show, but they really don’t. Gotta help them out with that.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I like hitting my vape a few times around the AirBnB.

I want them to hit me with a cleaning fee and them explain how they knew I was vaping unflavored eliquid.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (8 children)

It still stinks. You’ve just blown out your ability to smell it. Don’t vape indoors in shared spaces, it’s gross.

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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The basic problem of AirBNB was that it was never going to scale. Individual condo owners will never be able to compete with the efficiencies of scale of hotels. Having cleaning staff have to drive from building to building can never compete with a bunch of rooms in a single hallway.

The AirBNB concept does make sense for a few niche applications:

  1. Small rental units in locations where big hotels aren't viable. (Think remote mountain cabins.)

  2. Actual lived-in homes for people who are traveling and don't mind strangers staying in their house while they're away.

Neither of these scale. Cabin rentals can compete because it's not viable to build a hundred unit hotel on top of a remote mountain. But that market can't scale. Cabin rentals already have their own rental networks, and there are only so many of them. People renting out their actual residences can compete with hotels. You already have to pay your mortgage anyway, bringing in a short-term renter adds little marginal cost. But this model can't scale, as very few people actually want to rent out their own homes while they're out.

But AirBNB pulled the usual Silicon Valley bait-and-switch. Corner a market with unsustainably low prices, then raise them. The bait got many people to purchase rental units with the goal of renting them on AirBNB. But this was never going to be sustainable. Once AirBNB stopped subsidizing the rentals, the landlords have to raise the costs (both monetary and policy costs) to actually make the business profitable. And they simply cannot compete with the economies of scale of hotels.

[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Airbnb as a service for homeowners to rent to visitors is a great idea. Want to rent out your basement to weary travellers? Heres a service to do that.

Buying 20 single family homes to generate passive income is an incredibly stupid, antisocial, and dystopian idea.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wasn't that the original idea? I swear when my friend first used it he made it sound like crashing in a spare room.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

AirBnB became too many people’s “passive income”.

They don’t want to take care of the property or have too many to take care of, so they treat customers like house sitters for the luxury of renting the property as well as building equity off them.

Pretty messed up. In the early days Airbnb was ok, we used it a couple times, but ai wouldn’t want to mess with it today.

[–] diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Gosh, I hate passive income. It doesnt do anything meaningful to society. Yet, the investor somehow gains more benefit from the invested resources than the people who create and use them.

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[–] lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Idk my airbnb had a heat alarm directly above the stove, so when we decided to cook we discovered that it sets off above 45°C, is not a smoke alarm, and we were already overwhelmed with stress before that cataclysmic screech. I smashed it off the ceiling (because I can't think through the noise to find the latch), told them "fuck you, hated the stay," and I never got a fine. Left the pieces of alarm where they lay.

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[–] scytale@piefed.zip 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If you’re a party of 4 or fewer and are only staying for a couple of nights, a hotel with breakfast included is the better choice. Chain hotels also have a minimum baseline of quality so you at least have some expectation of consistency anywhere you go. Less chances of hidden cameras too.

Unless the point of your travel is the accommodation itself, you’ll likely only be in there for less than 12 hours a day, so all you really need is a secure room with a clean bed and bathroom.

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[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

I’ve never stayed in an Airbnb, and after everything I’ve read online, I can’t think of a compelling reason to.

Edit: my goodness, such evangelism! Perhaps I should reconsider my position

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've had good luck, but most of the time for a 1 night stay a hotel is better.

If it's multiple nights or a group that's where airbnb is more appealing. You have to put in the work to read everything the owner posts and the reviews to figure out if they are they type to engage in shenanigans. It's worked so far, but ridiculous to have to check for it

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 6 points 1 week ago

Yeah, when I’m traveling, the one thing I need to be rock solid reliable is the place that I’m staying. I can’t constantly have some anxiety about some bullshit shenanigans with that. No thank you

[–] xylol@leminal.space 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah its supposed to be a cheaper way to stay but I'd rather pay a little bit more for the structure, show up check in at the desk, then just leave when you're ready. If I want cheaper travel I'd rather just camp

They're good for big groups and certain locations.

My wife has a big online friend group that likes to get together a couple times a year in various places around the US. For 15ish people, AirBnB is cheaper than hotels and lets everyone stay together in one place with room to congregate and cook real meals. It's also easier to find cabins and stuff in remote nature areas than hotels.

We're also planning a weeklong trip to NYC, and even with rewards points AirBnB was cheaper than a hotel.

Outside those specific circumstances, if it's just us and we're only spending a night or two in a less expensive location, hotels are basically always better

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[–] Klanky@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

AirBnB is not for ‘cheap’ stays anymore (if it ever was), it works a lot better when you use it to find quirky/interesting places to stay (like a treehouse!). People still try to use it to replace a hotel though. $100/night can usually get you a decent room with breakfast at a hotel in most areas.

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[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've been enjoying watching the Internet collectively bully that one AirBnB couple, Cassie and Jon.

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[–] gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I absolutely despise the social media feel of AirBnB. I already hate creating more accounts. Why the fuck do I need to make a whole ass profile and tick off a bunch of interests and whatever, and then when I see a property I want to rent, send a personal message sucking up to the property owner? Yeah, no. Lots of options out there that don’t involve that bullshit ant it baffles me that anyone finds it attractive.

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[–] Kurtismayfield@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is the Fed's fault.

There should have never been less than 3 percent mortgages. They basically gave away free home equity to an entire generation. And you know what they did? Bought 2nd homes and allowed VRBO/AirB&B to thrive. Now with "normal" interest rates, none of this makes any sense.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Deposit at a hotel? I haven't seen that before.

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

These days they just put a hold on your credit card which basically has the same effect.

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$1k deposit, but yeah

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It only took thirty minutes of looking at how AirBnb operates for me to choose a hotel, on the one occasion I considered AirBnb.

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It used to be that hotels overcharged and airbnb was a way to get around that.

Now, hotels overcharged and airbnb raised the cost of rent/housing.

It gets worse.

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[–] Mika@piefed.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait how are they even able to enforce the fee?

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

With your credit card, which they have on file.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Hotels suck ass too. We stayed in a "luxury" hilton and it was shit. It looked nice at first, but then

  • Everything was falling apart.
  • You got a "complimentary" water bottle (like a kirkland style) if you were a member, but it was $2.50 (maybe even $3.50 which I think I would have remembered cuz it's funny) if you weren't.
  • They charged you a $60 deposit in case you use that bottle of water or something? We got that back, but it was stupid that we had to check.
  • We didn't use the parking pass for 2 days and they refused to give that money back.

They're only being a little nicer right now because they're losing business. They'll go back to huge shits if they get the market share back.

[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Maybe I misunderstand the parking pass thing, but I'm not sure why you would get the money back just because you didn't use it. My assumption (which may be wrong!) is that while you had that pass, capacity was allocated to you and could not be sold to someone else. Like buying a seat ticket for a show and not showing up.

That said, I wouldn't be shocked to learn that isn't quite the case. I should probably give you the benefit of the doubt.

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