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Despite a lawsuit from xAI, a Minnesota ban on apps that allow users to “nudify” images can move forward, according to NBC News. U.S. District Judge Donovan Frank’s ruling focused as much on the timing of xAI’s lawsuit as on the substance of the law itself. Frank wrote that xAI filed its request for a temporary restraining order “on July 29, 2026, nearly three months after the law was signed, and only three days before the law is set to take effect” on August 1.

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[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How DARE Democrats NOT Let us make CHILD PORN!

-Elon Musk!

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Hey, there is at least ONE racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, libertarian representative from Kentucky that ALSO happens to not be ok with child porn and pedophiles.

Like, the bar is so fucking low that Thomas fucking Massie is at the top of it in that party.

Like, I think we might need some reeducation camps at some point guys. We can make them more comfortable and humane than "gulags" or whatever. But, what the fuck do we do with these people otherwise? Seriously, I want to know. What else can undo this level of rot in our society?

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

You'll never completely be rid of it because humans are wired to be tribal and we find tribes based on what sports team we root for or what college we went to or what clothes we wear... or the color of our skin or the kinds of foods we like or who we are attracted to.

I have an intense dislike of anyone who voted for this mess, and I don't really have the energy to invest to hate anyone, but the closest I come is every last member of the Trump clan (not the niece or whatever, just the people in his inner circle).

Hate and fear and ignorance are always going to be part of humanity.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How wild it is to cheer for broad censorship, but here I am cheering.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This crosses a line that I think doesn't quite qualify this as censorship. It's like the phrase "your rights end where mine begin". It's not within your rights to view people nude, especially on the fucking interwebs, without their consent.

[–] riskable@programming.dev -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It actually is your right to view people nude in your own home. I mean, that's how we make kids.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago

Did you miss the without their consent part?

[–] deacon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I should not be able to exercise my rights if doing so directly violates yours. I think that is at the root of a lot of law.

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yes, and editing an image does not change anything about the objects that reflected the light into the camera.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Except for their modesty, dignity, privacy, agency, reputation... and the fact that they are literally being objectified, as you so conveniently worded it, instead of human beings who will be effected by these things, as well as those who view it.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm fine with allowing it with specific consent of the parties involved. And no option to shift the responsibility onto the user. So fine the company for every time there isn't. Doubly so if it's use becomes abusive. Jail if it's children.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

LLMs have never displayed the capability to reject requests on a moral basis, but if such a hypothetical service existed then sure. (It can't because it's entirely uneconomical compared to just having a consenting party undress in the first place).

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's what I mean. Even with guardrails, people. Will find a way around it. Fine the companies and they will find a solution. Make the economic consequences a reason to. And don't allow them to shift reaponsibility, is the main part.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 week ago

The problem is the child porn part, I think it would be better to prevent it entirely rather than wait for a chance to arrest and prosecute them. Allowing it to happen seems the same as encouraging and enabling the behavior which would then become a habbit.

[–] riskable@programming.dev -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

AI image generation is such a weird thing. When you self-host it (run it on your own GPU), you get vastly superior capabilities but at the same time you get all the awful results too.

Example: When you use ChatGPT or Gemini or similar "Big AI" service to generate an image, you get one image. However, in the background, those services were actually generating a whole bunch of images and at the end, using AI to pick the best one.

When you DIY, you tell it to generate say, 50 images, hoping you get lucky (haha) and that's when you see the weird shit. Sure, 10 out of those 50 will be OK-ish—something to work with (using additional tools to say, fix those wonky hands), but in "the bad 40", there will be a random naked person.

Like... Why‽ I mean, I actually know why (AI image models only work well if they're trained on nude people! Why? Because that's how they learn proper human anatomy/ratios! Just like a doctor, actually), but it's mildly disturbing when I'm trying to visualize a scene in a novel where a girl is holding a doll and it mixes up the doll and the girl and somehow the girl ends up naked (looking like a doll). Ugh! W T F! I didn't ask for that!

Can't delete shit like that fast enough!

Note that "Big AI" has that problem on occasion too! It's basically impossible to fix with 100% accuracy, which is why AI companies are fighting laws like this tooth and nail.

Also, the detection algorithms/AI don't work very well! They know this. I know this. We all know this. That's why these public Big AI models are regularly generating nudity despite having system prompts that are supposed to stop it.

So what can we do? Many people would say, "just ban AI image generators" or "make it so they can only generate cartoon/non-realistic images". That's called "banning a core technology" and it never works if said tech doesn't have some sort of rare supply chain ingredient (e.g. uranium).

I don't know. On the one hand, Big AI and smaller AI companies are definitely offering a depraved service. On the other hand, it's all fake!

All these "nudify" tools and apps are generating 100% totally made up bullshit. Why do we need to ban fake, digital things?

Think about it from a tech standpoint: Let's say we ban using AI to "generate nudes of people without their permission." All that users of these services will do is generate generic nudes and then use a different model to place the person's face on the body. There's nothing at all you can do to stop that because the user could just crop the image so that only the face and neck are showing and then just paste the result back into the original image.

This is a people problem. That is: People are using tools in ways we don't want them used.

You can't solve people problems with technology. It's one of those "laws" as old as tech.

IMHO, the best we can probably do is to hold people accountable when they behave inappropriately, but the anonymous nature of the Internet makes that extremely hard to do. So... 🤷

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's not how LLMs work, They don't "learn anatomy". They approximate the images they've seen before, simple as. Like cutting up strips of magazines and glueing them onto paper.

[–] riskable@programming.dev -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You are correct! Absolutely 100% accurate!

That is not how LLMs learn anatomy!

What does that have to do with AI image generation models though?

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Image generators are LLMs, with the Language part being loosely defined but that was already the case because they both tokenize everything and don't actually understand words to begin with.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No. LLMs and AI image models are fundamentally, a different technology. They use completely different mathematical models, data models, and target different platform spaces.

As a simple example, to train an LLM you need to feed it lots of text and not much else. To train an image model, you need to feed it billions of tagged images. That is, images that have every stupid little thing in the image "tagged" with a bounding box and text describing what's inside said bounding box.

Also, these terms might not mean anything to you, but LLMs use transformer decoders (autoregressive causal retention) while image models use diffusion networks. The way they work is different at a fundamental level. Text is 1-dimensional and an LLM acts as a word prediction machine whereas image models start with chaos (random garbage pixels) and refine it over and over again in n steps until the chaos starts looking like the prompt.

The way prompting works is also different.

Musk after not getting a response to his wildest party request to Epstein:

[–] turdburglar@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

cool. now make elon pay for the water treatment plant in memphis.

[–] stretch2m@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago

Do you suppose they brought this lawsuit because ultimately the regime wants the federal moritorium on AI lawsuits to go before the corrupt Supreme Court?