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[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 72 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Hmmm... So you're telling me the president that followed the "let's cater to the conservatives to woo them over" turned out to be devastating to the Democratic party...

Let's see what the Democrats are doing now as they obviously learned that lesson...

...wait... They learned that lesson right?

(Insert Padame & Anikin meme here)

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This book explains what happened and why it's still happening pretty well. They've basically created a social bubble that includes rich people and politicians, and excludes everyone else. Now, they're in too deep to admit they were wrong, and fascists are taking advantage of that.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 6 points 1 month ago

They weren't wrong. They accomplished exactly what they intended to accomplish.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Don't forget the Telecommunications Act of 1996 which allowed for the mass media consolidation we see today.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You mean the Act that came after 12 years of GOP attacks on the Fairness Doctrine and the FCC? The one that passed after the GOP retook both Houses?

Yes, that was all Clinton's fault.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 21 points 1 month ago (4 children)

He signed it. Hell, I guess he had to sign it, because they had the votes in the Senate to override a veto. Because lots of Democrats supported it, including Al Gore. And ol' Bill had plenty of praise to heap upon it.

Yes, it's as much his fault as anybody's.

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[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also working to repeal glass-steagal for his Wall Street buddies which set in motion the collateralized debt that created the 2008 recession

Also DMCA which led to weaponizing copyright against fair use with basically no recourse (and even a path to easily dox people by invoking it, though this was unintended)

And wrt the op shifting the welfare burden onto the disability system. Since the changes in 1996 disability claims have significantly increased year after year (especially claims related to mental health, which are impossible to quantify objectively) which has led to it becoming substantially more difficult in most states for the disabled to receive benefits.

At this point in my state it is basically well understood that if you are claiming disability for any mental illness (including things like autism and intellectual disability) unless you’ve spent years in residential inpatient you should anticipate being denied and having to do a lengthy appeal. It’s also highly recommended to get a lawyer involved which is either costly (typically they take 25% of back pay, max $7200, so if the appeal took two years and payments would’ve been $1100 a month they get $6600 of the 26,400 that is owed to you and you likely desperately need as someone who has had no income for at least 2 years (possibly ever). Or you can get legal aid but qualifications for that are very strict and you’ll likely wait awhile as they’re always slammed

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I have one of these lawyers for my cancer disability claim.

Also that amount that is owed to you is disbursed into small quantities at first. Initially a check for around $2000 every six months and then a final lump sump payment a year after the initial payment. Basically so the Fed can continue to get interest on it for a year.

I learned that from my ex's mental health disability claim which finally went through.

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[–] rhythmisaprancer@quokk.au 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bill Clinton pulled out a saxophone to make liberal economics sexy and unfortunately it worked.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was baffled watching the right wing freak the fuck out all during the 90s about a version of Bill Clinton that only seemed to exist in their heads.

They kept acting that because he and Hillary apparently were what they thought of as boomers/60s hippie activists that it meant Stalin was in the WH. It was all so fucking ridiculous THEN, it looks positively braindead in retrospect.

Clinton was not even a centrist, for fuck's sake.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They kept acting that because he and Hillary apparently were what they thought of as boomers/60s hippie activists that it meant Stalin was in the WH

They did it again 8 years later with Obama. There was a (more than) little twist of racism there to help it along, so it actually kind of worked. Remember the scary black preacher who said 9/11 was chickens coming home to roost (he was right, by the way)? Remember Bill Ayers? Remember how they tried to bring out that photo of him looking fly as hell smoking a fat joint (lol that one backfired)?

That's why half the country will call you a liar to your face when you tell them that Obama deported more people than Trump did in his first term (into the beginning of his second), no matter what data you have to back it up.

Once you get an idea into these people's minds (especially if it plays into their xenophobia and racism), they will believe it until the day that they die. They will eschew their own familial relationships in order to keep believing a lie that has been disproven over and over for decades.

It's fucking tragic.

[–] KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org 24 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Please... maga has been on its way since Reagan.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think you mean Jefferson Davis. Dude got a bunch of poor white guys to fight for a cause that helped the wealthy and didn't benefit them at all.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Newt Gingrich is the biggest POS who pushed us to where we are

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Carter wasn't the saint we think he was

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[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Clinton did a lot of stupid shit, but he didn't "end welfare". For one, welfare still fucking exists, so...

Dude was an orator and he said we were going to end it as we know it. Are people this dense?

There's a lot to criticize Clinton for, so let's not just make shit up

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He did start the work requirement bullshit though…

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[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Clinton "paved the way" for MAGA 16 years before it happened. Got it.

Also he "ended" welfare which continues to exist.

Lemmy gold.

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[–] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 15 points 1 month ago (18 children)

If you become skilled at writing articles to even slightly plausibly blame the outcomes of Republican conservative policies on Democrats, you can develop this into an extremely lucrative career.

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[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

You bet he did. Encouraged child rapists and made sure the #1 government policy is protect the pedophiles over a certain income.

[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

The entire government and media apparatus have been inching us back toward fascism ever since they missed their first chance in the 1930s. Socialist upwelling was so strong that the powers that be allowed FDR to win 4 terms versus the alternative, actual dismantling of the capitalist system. Looks like history is repeating, but like with fucking losers

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Fucking stop. The heritage foundation was formed in the 70s to “pave the way” to what we have now. Look at how many policies of theirs the presidents since then have supported.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Welfare still exists, right?

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Our government on both sides sucks donkey dick. They're all bought and paid for. The fucking Democrats in there went against like 78% of their base and voted to keep funding Israel, siding with virtually all the republicans

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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These weird ass articles talking about "paving the way" have the same energy as "Why did you make me hit you?"

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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, he wasn't great, but I'd still vote for him over ANY Republican.

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