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Oddly enough it works like this for silencers to my understanding. And concealed carry to an extent.

But yeah people would riot without their guns

Conservatives and the right don't care if they're being hypocritical or ignoring how this applies to something they do like. They want the SAVE act because it will benefit them or their side, specifically, not because it's "a good law for everyone" and they don't want a gun version of it because it will restrict them, specifically. they'd probably be fine with a gun version that only restricts Democrats, "the left", trans people, people of color, and any other "outsider".

We need to stop pushing the narrative that guns are only for Republicans. The second amendment is for everyone, and everyone should be fighting to protect it.

I would not support this. While I support gun control, the SAVE act is designed to discriminate against women. I don't want to grab women by the pistol.

Still not sure why someone doesnt just propose this. Exact bill, change the topic.

Tell me you've never actually bought a gun without telling me you've never bought a gun.

Also, not even a part of that act, but just buy virtue of an executive order, all states must register all gun owners and share that registry to a central federal body who will use knowingly outdated and massively incorrect data (and probably politically motivated bullshit as well) to automatically remove people from the registration without notification and make exercising gun ownership a felony if you're not on that registry. And any state that doesn't submit to this will have all of their citizen's ability to use federal services curtailed, and likely more punishments later like restricting federal dollars they are owed.

Americans are a funny breed of chimps. They wax poetic about the 2nd amendment and how they need it to protect themselves from a tyrannical government when a guy with mental health issues goes in and shoots up a school murdering innocent children and teachers.

But when they actually need to put that line item into action, they’re swinging deep into the forests away from any type of conflict.

Trump has proven that the American constitution isn’t worth the paper it’s written on and has the resale value of a roll of toilet paper.

Enjoy fascism American. You’ve voted for this shit, twice.

This is not a great analogy, blue states do sometimes pass legislation that rhymes with these types of identity-based threats to gun rights. It is sometimes prohibitively difficult to get a CHL in certain states when your chosen name doesn't match your legal name. A few years ago Oregon almost passed an act by citizen referendum that would have had police precincts be responsible for verifying that identities matched licenses, with desk cops screening people's psych histories ("Uh, their license says Samuel, male but the document says Samantha, female? Oh and what's this, they're on several medications including a mood stabilizer? Denied.'). I'm glad that OP's poster isn't pitching their hypothetical analogy as a positive, but I want to be clear for the people playing team sports with their politics that identity-based rights abuses are all bad.

But yes, that Oregon referendum did get modified to remove the potentially abusive parts. And yes, it was because Republicans and libertarian types semi-successfully challenged it in court.

Goes to the local vote show and proceeds to buy votes without any oversight.

If the government makes a clerical mistake and removes your eligibility, it's up to YOU to prove you're entitled to exercise your constitutional rights again.

I can't see any situation that the government could "accidentally" make mistakes with certain groups of peoples... The US government has never ever shown discrimination towards certain groups of people... Never once, nu uh

Much of these are already laws (or close to it.)

Your drivers license isn't enough, you also need a NICs check.

You do have to appear in person, though "original citizenship docs" isn't a requirement, naturalized citizens can legally buy guns.

If your name on the Form 4473 (or Form 1, Form 4, etc) isn't an exact match to your ID, you indeed cannot buy the gun. Same with your street address actually.

You can "apply" by mail if that means "buy online," but you still have to get it shipped to an FFL and do your NICs check and present ID in person.

If you've lost your birth cert/SSN card, you do have to get those replaced at your cost (iirc you may get a few free SSN card replacements). You don't need them to buy the gun but you do for carry permits in most states that still require permits to carry.

If the government does make a clerical mistake, it is up to you to correct it. Clerical errors here are rare though, it's usually you who made an error on the forms.

There is no deadline, nor election, but you will have to resubmit, which sucks for like a Form 1 at an 8mo wait right now, that's another 8mo to wait just because you filled the form out wrong. At least as of recently it isn't $200 to submit one, but still.

Oregon requires background checks for all sales of complete firearms and lower receivers with most of these stipulations

Those are not currently requisites for owning a gun or rifle in the US ?