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Isn't mac more linux like supposedly?

I don't want to feel like a mac dipshit tho :angery:

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[–] Yamimakai@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

I will bravely recommend Windows. You can use WSL for a POSIX CLI, and the keyboard shortcuts are much closer to Linux. It's obviously got problems but Linux has been working to get users FROM Windows so the opposite direction should be a bit friendlier.

I am on MacOS for work and it is infuriating. Why do they feel the need to have a different keyboard with command and control? Want to jump to the address bar in your browser? Can't use alt+d like everywhere else, use ctrl+l!

No native window snapping either, I have despised using my machine. For all the "it's so intuitive" I hear and having used Mac like a decade ago for several years it's all ass backwards.

[–] Cheesehat1784@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

I also had only this choice, but I asked if I could change to Linux if I get a windows laptop? They said as long as I am doing the work, all good.

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

I have a million criticisms of apple and generally find the OS to be a pile of shit but undeniably the experience is better than windows. The close marriage of hardware and software is terrible for the purchaser/owner but good for a user.

The office suite is better. The default UI is generally nicer

[–] regul@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mac. Any MacBook is also going to be better than any Windows laptop they'll give you.

[–] oliveoil@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago
[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In general, if gaming isnt a concern. MacOS easily outclasses Windows in almost every respect, from battery life to device quality to out of the box convenience + POSIX by default so its more familiar

Just get Mac for the better screen alone, windows computers feel so cheap in comparison.

[–] DelgadoSlims@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: get a windows so it will break down more and get you out of work sometimes

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

Let's start our workday with an hour of updates.

[–] wheresmysurplusvalue@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It depends on your work to be honest. I was given the same choice and went with Windows because everyone else is using Windows, and most of the existing documentation etc. is done with Windows in mind. So if you'll be like the only person using a Mac, just be aware you may be the first one to encounter various issues. But if that's not a concern, then I'd probably go with the Mac.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 day ago

My company rolled out macs as an option, didn't make sure it was compatible with people's job duties, and now there are a bunch of VMs that these SWE's remote into from their Macs to do their work. Capitalism breeds efficiency bro I swear bro.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would have to use windows because every time i touch an iOS device i have no idea what the fuck i'm doing.

fell-for-it-again but the ribbon says NOT AS SMART AS THEY THINK

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[–] red_giant@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It’s Mac no question.

The hardware is in a league of its own, and the Unix-like environment means you basically have the full power of Linux anyway - aside from deeply customizing your OS of course but you still have the everyday power user advantages of Unix-like shell.

The idea of using windows on a daily basis sounds like hell. I’d rather have a Chromebook.

[–] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You should choose mac, I'm sorry to say.

You'll get a familiar-feeling terminal and it's not vibe-coded broken nonsense. The hardware is high-quality and the trackpad is actually quite nice (assuming you're getting a laptop, I have no experience with mac mice).

My work macbook has never tried to force so-called "AI" in my face either, which I gather every windows machine does these days.

[–] gray@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

I almost never use mac, but I second this

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

macOS will feel much closer to Linux since they are both unix-y.

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ba'al, and it's not even a question.

You can never go wrong going with the storm gods*, and many scholars argue Molech wasn't even a recognized god rather a type of sacrificial ritual.

*Citation Needed

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ba'al was also used as the stand-in name for a number of different deities in the polytheistic early Hebraic faith.

Molech (מלך) was a ritual of child sacrifice. The root of the word is from "to promise" or "to sacrifice", and most likely is a nominalized causative so it probably refers to the action and item being presented. The usage in the biblical text also is most consistent with this theory, so it seems Molech was both the term for the child sacrificed and for the action of sacrificing the child.

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Maybe if the early hebraic polytheists wanted me to take their opinion on the matter seriously they would have written that shit down on a nice stone monolith LIKE THE GODS INTENDED

spoilerE) Jokes aside, yeah I've been really into the bronze age cultic practices recently and am looking for more stuff to read

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't really have a lot of good sources, this is mostly all stuff I half-remember from asking my rabbi weird questions as a kid in yeshiva.

Here's another fun one, the name of Mot (ΧžΧ•Χͺ), the Ugaritic/Canaanite personification of death and god of the underworld, goes back to the Proto-Indo-European M-w-t, the word for death and the root of the modern English word Murder.

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sorry for late response, but how do you get from M-w-t to murder? I understand that the vowels are implied, and maybe see the route to "mort" but I don't know any old hebrew to understand the relation between consonants.

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

English gets the connection through Latin in this case.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Mac by a mile don't even think about it 100% Mac. There are already like 50 comments saying Mac and I'm still commenting to say do a Mac. Windows is so, so bad.

[–] JaggahogginMyDickandBallZ@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mac 100%. More cohesive ecosystem for work and won't shove ads in your face nearly as frequently as Windows will.

[–] calmblue75@lemmy.ml 1 points 22 hours ago

It'll still shove ads ?

I don't want to feel like a mac dipshit tho

i should think it beats being a windows dipshit complacently accepting built-in adware and catastrophic vibe coding-induced bugs

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I lwk get fits from having to use MacOS (/hj) because every time I've tried it, it seems to assume that I'm braindead or smth

Also I will always choose a good ThinkPad (even if it runs Windows. But properly managed enterprise Win is relatively OK) over a MacBook tbh

Also WSL 2.X is such a huge win, since you can actually use a good dev environment and don't have to bother with Mac workarounds and other Apple exclusive BS

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some orgs block WSL due to IT security restrictions. It sucks being at one.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The place is downright soul-destroying

[–] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

Get a mac you silly willy. I hate to say it but my works provided m4 macbook pro is a fucking great machine other than the edges are really sharp and this is annoying

MacOS has its own annoyances and is quite opinionated, but Mac hardware is so amazing.
I have a M1 Pro and for work I had a M3 Pro. These things are beasts. You have no idea how it feels to do computationally intensive tasks with literally 0 fan noise because the fans just don’t need to spin.

Also MacOS doesn’t require an account.

But bottom line is with customization and time you’ll get used to it. I’d pick Mac over Windows any day if I could choose only one.

[–] DasRav@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As someone without that choice and saddled with Windows, the best thing to say about 11 in this situation is that you can install the Linux subsystem and work in that as much as possible.

That is, if they give you local admin access or allow this install via their group policies.

This is not an endorsement though, MAC might well be better. I have no personal experience with it though.

gotta agree with the majority as someone who uses both linux and mac. it's very comfortable switching between the two, although macos technically counts as a bad

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

if they're giving you a computer, find out exactly the specs of the work machines on offer and compare.

the problems with with mac are mostly related to cost (you're not paying) and the walled garden (you're not planning to install anything non-work related anyway) so just using one for work won't make you an apple fanboy. but maybe they have old macbooks and recent surfaces as the options, and the windows machines are just better - find out if you can.

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

mac os is annoying in different ways than windows (more paternalistic, less openly enshittified) but the hardware is dramatically superior

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You can run Linux in a VM and the performance is actually very good, as long as you don't use shared volumes between the guest and host, which slows it way down, and as long as you use a fast hypervisor. That's what I did when they forced me off of Linux and onto Windows, I ran Linux in a VM and they're fine with it because they can still monitor you from the Windows side.

If you're setting up a Linux VM and they give you a license for Parallels or VMware, you can choose Mac and install your Linux VM on that. Otherwise, Hyper-V on Windows will give you the best performance for a Linux VM.

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[–] abc@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

i think you should be forced to use windows

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

I'd lean towards Mac. It's still got some quite annoying aspects, but they're mostly fairly minor compared to using Windows for tech work. The only thing that would lean me towards Win would be if there are specific tools/apps that work better on it that you need to use day to day.

[–] Big@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ten years ago, I would have recommended windows, but I use the latest windows at work and it is complete dog shit. Sooo much bloat and clunky interfaces, it's a pain in the ass to use.

I've never used MacOS before, but I can't imagine they've fucked up as bad as windows.

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[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

MacOS is a bit like a mid Linux distro if you ignore/disable the bulk of the Apple crap. And on the hardware side it's some of best laptops.

You can use stuff like homebrew or nix if IT allows it.

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And from what I've seen, IT policy is often more permissive with macos than windows

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 day ago

I see mfs using snapchat and texting on their work-provided macs. Zero clue that it's all visible for IT to look at.

[–] NewOldGuard@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

The only way I'd run windows on a work machine is with WSL. I do this now and it's pretty solid, but there are limitations to it especially with disk throughput and with networking when on enterprise VPNs. I'd choose the mac any day of the week though, it's still Unix-like and the hardware is almost certainly going to be nicer. And it's not your machine so the privacy and repairability implications do not matter

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I got no idea what you do, which makes most analysis questionable, but Mac (unix) is like 90% Linux (for the layman at least).

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

Also hardware is generally superior for most things that don't require an Nvidia card (gaming/AI).

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