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[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I'm so bummed about Rowling. I loved those books so much growing up. Its such a shame the person who put such whimsy and magic in the world has gotta spew that hate. RIP Harry, a wizard no more

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Spew hate, fund hate, systemically implement hate and violence, politically platform and fund hate, and do horrific disgusting acts to individuals all the time.

Jkr is evil. Not a trash person, not a politically polarizing person, not just an outspoken person I disagree with. But an actual. Evil. Fucking. Human.

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's strange to me how they wrote a book about how muggles are oppressed, then they turn around and become Voldemort IRL

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

From the very beginning she makes it clear which muggles are "good", and which are not, and thus are ok to do violence to. Same with other groups.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah, Hagrid performs body modification surgery on an 11 year old boy because he stole a cake. This is presented by the story as just deserts.

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[–] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're not that whimsical and the magic is kind of stupid. As in its not good magic and the world isn't coherently built around it.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I mean, personally I agree the magic system is lazy and the world is nonsensical, but "good" is more subjective than that. I disliked the books and never even finished the series, it tool YEARS before I even read 5&6, and I don't think I've seen past the 3rd movie. Except meme clips anyway.

But if someone else wants to lament how something they liked is tied to a bigot, let them lament in peace.

[–] Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Yeah, I too personally never really cared for them. Like, they were OK, I read the first 3 books and yeah, it was a story but I never really got into this "world of wonder and whimsy" stuff. I read the rest of the books as they got released just to finish the story and I don't think I saw any in the cinema.

But that was me, one of my closer friends at school though was utterly obsessed. They purchased all the merchandise, watched all the films in the cinema, multiple times, read all the fanfiction (and the naughty fanfiction......), played the games etc. etc.

So yeah, I agree that for me I, never really cared about it, it meant nothing more to me than any one of the number of kids books I read. But for others it did form so much of their childhood, it was important. From writing their own fanfiction to drawing art or programming games, I'm sure a lot of people have had it influence their adult life really heavily and, especially those who don't quite understand the level of harm she is doing and maybe don't even know anyone personally who is being harmed, this could seem like a real attack on their childhood, we should be able to recognise that and treat that with compassion rather than say the books are crap and you are an evil person for still liking them, which will only serve to harden them.

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[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I can pirate and indulge in my inner child from time to time knowing that cast and crew created lifetime bonds and had that experience with us - the fans.

Rowling? There aren't enough buses on earth to toss her under.

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Most everything matters more than Harry Potter.

And few things matter less than the JK herself.

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And few things matter less than the JK herself.

I agree, but she's rich and is putting her money into projects that are actively hurting people.

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[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's right! FUCK Rowling

[–] SourDragon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

With a cactus, sideways

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't forget that Daniel Radcliffe is a huge trans ally

[–] mig@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

I would consider him averaged sized.

[–] EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd argue that trans lives matter more than JK Rowling's life. I'm bringing out the champagne when that bitch dies, and I don't even like alcohol.

[–] Magnus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

The easiest of trolley problems

[–] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Just pirate it ffs, separate art from artist and simply don't give her any money

[–] msage@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago

Attention sometimes matters more than your money. And todays world is all about attention.

We will all do better to ignore such artists altogether.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Yeah it's actually been pretty handy to my language learning process to have a full series of books written at a child's reading level that it's easy to find secondhand or on Anna's archive etc translated into multiple other languages. They're mediocre and the author sucks but they've had a massive cultural impact worldwide and if you read them as a kid you'll be able to follow the plot pretty well even while you're still learning the language. I needed hardcopies because my job benefits from me being as analog as possible but like I said it's so easy to find translated copies of them for cheap.

As a side note, having gotten into the western esoteric spiritual traditions (tarot, astrology, etc) where she pulled a bunch of her worldbuilding from, idt people realize how deep the TERF roots are in that culture. There's a huuuge emphasis on a woman's reproductive status being the source of their power. It's much easier to separate yourself from that kind of thing with an esoteric religion compared to an institutional one like mainstream Christianity but it does still require being mindful of what outside sources you integrate into your personal philosophy.

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[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I have the pirated Full Cast audio books. After book 3, they slowly get worse. First 3 I can defend as simple kids solving over the top mysteries. Reminds me of the Enid Blyton and The Secret Seven books I read as a kid.

But the casual elf slavery. Dumbing down politics for kids. The torture being used for detention in book 5. Pushed me enough to buy the inkheart audio books.

There are probably other books for teens that have magic and fantasy, but I am reccomending Inkheart by Cornelia Funke right now.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (10 children)

The fact that she recently threatened to sue amnesty international and posted an upskirt picture of a (trans) woman (claiming it contained genital, and stating it's because this woman refused to debate her) would in most circumstances convince people to drop her. But for some reason we're still struggling to convince people that they can live without this series.

It was important to my childhood too, but I don't get to have nostalgia the hatemonger who wrote the books made them into something deeply associated with extreme bigotry against me, I wish that ruined it for everyone else too.

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[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Everything matters more than Harry Potter. Harry Potter is fantasy slop, it is insanely unoriginal in so many ways. There's better stuff out there to read and support. I don't understand why people go gaga for this shit.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 15 points 1 week ago (8 children)

That's because they're books for children. Has everyone forgotten this?

[–] laz@pawb.social 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The average Harry Potter fan is still nostalgic for their lost childhood innocence I guess.

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

Things are allowed to be kind of bad and people are allowed to like them anyway.

Things are not allowed to be bigoted, of course.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i don't want anyone to feel conflicted because they like harry potter and hate jowling kowling rowling. i want them to feel peace with not watching or reading harry potter because it's a terribly written story by a talentless hack who got extremely lucky. literally everything about it is awful, the characters, the plots, the conclusions...

please get over your nostalgia. you're not a child anymore, just think about how much you projected your own good will into a story full of bigotry and vile.

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[–] Toneswirly@beehaw.org 7 points 1 week ago

Fuck yeah dude

[–] SourDragon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Amen to that 🙌

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's a pretty good way to train boycotting.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The important part is that we can have both

[–] EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago (26 children)

If you're talking about the original books you purchased years ago then sure, I guess.

But buying anything from or supporting the HP franchise now, financially supports JKR, and that means she can finance more of her transphobic bullshit that hurts all of us. So in that case no, no we can't have both.

God knows why you'd want to enjoy a story written by a person as awful as JKR these days, though anyway. I know I can't.

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[–] starik@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago

I’m glad I found the first book too boring to finish, and never tried again.

[–] UninterestingVoid@reddthat.com 5 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Wouldn't pirating kinda solve the issue? The fiction itself is not inherently bad and if you pirate you are not supporting the author. Normalize pirating harry potter stuff ig.

Arr.

Tell me if I am wrong tho i cannot really see dislikes.

[–] melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The argument goes that while pirating doesn't inherently support the author, continuing to participate in fandom perpetuates the cultural influence that the author has in society and can encourage others by proxy to go spend money on the author's work.

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[–] shadshack@feddit.online 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That works to an extent, as long as you aren't talking to your friends about the show, who might then go off and watch it somewhere that supports her.

Well I didn't consider that because I have no friends-

Jokes aside that's fair lol. But like of you go to watch it somewhere that supports her it's kinda not pirating anymore. But I guess uou are more likely to do so if you already consume the content ig. I doubt anyone would in an scenario like this tho. But it is a big world ig.

[–] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

It's pretty bad. Remember how abolishing slavery is literally a running gag? Or his there's one character of every non-white ethnicity? Or the prose kinda sucked?

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don't forget the names of the non-white characters are racist caricatures at best.

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I take issue with "they're far from perfect"

Even the ones where you can see his early-onset Alzheimer's developing are excellent

GNU Terry Pratchett

[–] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The first two aren't spectacular. They're better than harry Potter, but they don't really pop.

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[–] Dojan@pawb.social 10 points 1 week ago

It's pretty bad. Remember how abolishing slavery is literally a running gag?

It's not just a running gag, but the one character who takes an issue with it is ridiculed for it.

Honestly, it makes no sense that Harry is so relaxed about the slavery thing, he's also from a "muggle" background, and should be affected just as much as Hermione. Then again, he's a pretty insensitive prick, and shows very little care for the people around him.

Then again, he is a trust-fund baby that grew up to be a cop. So... Guess all that is par for the course.


They're far from perfect

I don't believe in perfection, but Terry Pratchett's books are terrific.

For an interesting and fairly recent magical school story, I'd recommend the Scholomance series by Naomi Novik, also known for His Majesty's Dragon, a historic fantasy series.

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[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Pirate, then donate to a trans-friendly charity what the books would have cost.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Yes. Yes they always will.

JKR is a fucking ghoul. A projection worst than any of her creations.

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