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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is Youtube trying to eat Patreon's lunch, essentially.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 20 points 2 days ago

A lot of creators are going to Patreon because they're smart enough to recognize that putting all eggs in the YouTube basket yields diminishing returns over time. Hopefully this doesn't change that.

[–] Thorry@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago

I think it was setup more as an alternative to Twitch Subscriptions? A way for streamers to monetize their content on YouTube. For a long time this was a reason for people choosing Twitch and other platforms over YouTube.

The annoying thing is, on Twitch when subscribed to a channel, you no longer get ads on that channel. With YouTube people still get ads, which makes being a member a lot less attractive.

[–] univers3man@piefed.world 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I think this is for specific channels so they get more of the money, not for general ad removal like YT Red is.

[–] zuch0698o@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is correct. Creators turn it on.

[–] turdburglar@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

yeah and as a creator and as a viewer it’s some bullshit.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 13 points 2 days ago

Yes it's YouTube trying to stop creators from going to Patreon

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

It's also completely independent from YouTube premium

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

Paid Youtube channel memberships have been around for years. I know starting 2022 or so up to 2024, Impact Wrestling had their weekly shows and monthly specials available through a paid channel membership in addition to through their own streaming service.

[–] minus@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let them invent subscriptions for everything so people start realizing that this is just a bew way of extracting money. Capitalism is a damn pyramid scheme.

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 2 points 2 days ago

Subscriptions within your subscriptions.

Such is subscriptions. They all go down this path.

Increase in price, reduce features, add more tiers and more options to pay, and reintroduce ads. The reintroduction of ads is the latest in YouTube Premium in the form of Premium Lite where it only does it on some videos and on music. These memberships have been a thing for a few years now.