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Nintendo is not your friend. It has no interest in passing any of its potential savings onto you, and the only reason it’s ever interested in your bank account is when it’s thinking about how much money it can get out of it.
Some (too many) people fail to understand this extremely basic concept.
Yeah, it's honestly very sad to see people defend these gaming corporations blindly, yes, including Steam, when they're doing anti-consumer things.
I'll take the bait... What anti-consumer stuff is Valve doing?
Sure, here are my small list personal list of gripes, mostly minor except the first one.
Steam's a great company and overall very pro-consumer company in my opinion, more so than most of the other companies in the PC gaming realm but I'll criticize Steam when I see something I believe is anti-consumer regardless of my like for them because end of they day they're still just a corporation that prioritizes profits over people and it's just one death away from being enshitified like the rest of them.
That have zero choice on the licensing at least for games they dont publish.
On the other hand they have kept installers for me long after the publisher has pulled their product.
In addition to the other comment, the only reason their famous refund policy exists is because Australia made them do it. And I really cannot stress how shitty the loot box stance is. Gamers hate loot boxes by and large yet somehow largely give Valve a pass despite the fact they hugely popularized the concept in the gaming space.
This is true of all companies in a capitalist society. People love to shit on Nintendo but Sony, Microsoft, Valve, yes even your previous Gabe is not your friend.
(that's a royal you btw, not calling out you specifically)
This is true of all companies in a capitalist society. People love to shit on Nintendo but Sony, Microsoft, Valve, yes even your previous Gabe is not your friend.
There's a difference between publicly-traded and privately-owned companies. I'm not saying that large corporations are your friend, but it's rather disingenuous to categorize all of them with the same black & white stance.
Yeah, but some at least have some consumer friendly policies while they're squeezing you dry.
Not saying you should cozy up to suck them off or anything, but throwing everything in a single bucket labeled "bad" is big smooth brain moves.
I think it is more that whether benevolent or malevolent there are more decisions that align with what PC gamers want compared to other gaming companies.
Like push for Linux and trying to make it more accessible to the average user. Compared to where Linux was when the first Steam Machine came out and how much more user friendly it became after the Steam Deck is one area. Still lot of work to do, but leaving Microsoft behind isn't as daunting as it used to be for gamers.
With other consoles the stands outs are more the exclusives.
But, there are more clashing of ideas like paid online, requiring locked down hardware, and inability to install whatever you want on consoles. Console ecosystem has been much more confrontational just because of being a closed ecosystem for those that want a more open one.
“The common thread among Plaintiffs’ claims is that it is somehow ‘unfair'; that Nintendo has not retroactively adjusted its prices for completed sales in response to the outcome of the tariff litigation,” Nintendo’s statement continues, adding that this is “not how commercial transactions work.”
Then why the fuck would Nintendo themselves get a refund?
Because they were charged a tax they shouldn't have been charged. A buyer agreed to the price at retail. A lot of people can probably spot the difference.
Yeah, like Cards Against Humanity spotted the difference and decided to not be anti-consumer asshats.
https://www.fastcompany.com/91500865/tariff-refund-cards-against-humanity-trump
They agreed to the tax by paying it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
You dropped this: \
He's got an arm off!
It's just a flesh wound.
I've had worse
So did Nintendo.
That is what they said.
I’d say this argument probably doesn’t apply to something like, say, food. People can’t just opt out of eating. They can change their luxury spending to stuff that’s cheaper and doesn’t have to get imported.
I’d definitely like for this argument to be applied in Nintendo’s case, and I’ll be pleasantly surprised if a judge agrees, I guess I’m a little pessimistic though. Maybe I just have a low view of the justice system right now.
Thinking of it as movie tickets, I guess it'd be like if there was suddenly an illegal tax being imposed on every theater to charge an extra 20% per ticket. A customer's $20 ticket becomes $24 and the theater makes up for it by passing that cost 1 to 1 onto the customer. The tax is struck down as illegal and as such the theater sues the government for that $4 per ticket.
Thinking of it this way I think it's strange the theater is suing the government for that $4. The theater chose to upcharge for the same tickets despite the fact that they otherwise would have earned near exactly the same amount otherwise. At best I think they should be suing not for the $4/ticket but lost revenue that would have been incurred from the price increase imposed by the government.
By making headlines that they're suing for that $4/ticket it naturally would give customers the impression that they're entitled to at least a portion of that given the customers are the ones who actually paid that $4/ticket. The theater would have had a negligible difference in costs for operations, real estate, supplies, wages, etc during the period that tax was being imposed, so in theory they should have remained almost exactly as profitable as before, except only that the customer would have $4 less to potentially spend on anything else with their ticket.
I should also add I'm not trying to correct or refute anything you're saying, just kinda thinking about the situation from a different perspective.
And Nintendo didn't pay the higher rate. They passed the costs over to the consumer. Nintendo got exactly what they paid for.
Nintendo got exactly what they didn't pay for and they're getting the refund for it too.
Don't forget how many transactions have been impacted by the tarrifs. Hell we lost on some fixed price jobs at my work because we priced things before the tarrifs went in and by the time we ordered we were basically paying to finish a promised job. People need not be mad at Nintendo, this issue was caused by the pedophile in chief.
People need not be mad at Nintendo
You don't hate Nintendo hard enough.
People need not be mad at Nintendo, this issue was caused by the pedophile in chief.
I'm in total agreement here, except for the fact that this is a separate issue. Nintendo didn't bring about the tariffs but they are the ones asking for the refund and deciding not to give it back to the people who paid that money in the first place, so while they aren't to blame for the tariffs, they are to blame for keeping the tariff refunds.
As a canuck, pretty based of Nintendo lol elect a better president next time, yanks.
But everyone else paid the same price as well (except for Japan).
US fucking the rest of us over, what else is new
I hate Nintendo too. But they are not wrong in this case. Unstable politically motivated trade conditions raise prices.
except it was not nintendo that paid the tariffs, it was the customer, and they profit based on percentage of cost, so the customers paid them more, and then they complained to get payed again for having to profit more, which is paid for with tax dollars,
so basically you paid for the privilege of paying them more.
Fuck corporate greed. My library rents switch games and for every three games I rent, only one is something I might pay for (but don't have to). Who wants to spend 90 plus dollars just to take a chance on a game you might play for 10 minutes and decide you don't like it?
Hence why we should be fighting for rights with digital goods. eBooks can be checked out at the library, albeit not without multiple fights to get something relatively fair, and there's no good reason why this can't be implemented for all other digital goods, other than like you said, corporate greed.
I'll toss it onto the massive pile of reasons I don't buy Nintendo shit.
And to head off any smug assholes who think they found a gotcha, no I don't buy from microsoft sony or valve either.
Sail the high seas or get shafted every time.
Buy consoles secondhand.
As if anyone needed more reasons to stop giving Nintendo any money. The Switch2 is hardly an improvement, the games library sucks for the value (that never decreases), their online features are still stunted in the 2000's era, and shocking no one, their company culture towards customers is "fuck you".
Well the only reason why I didn’t get switch 2 because that’s the very first Nintendo console that you can’t pirate. And I really don’t mind.
I got one simply because it's usually the launch model/first iteration of Nintendo's consoles that get hacked first. As soon as it does...
Not with that attitude. It'll be figured out.
Intentionally buying only ones that are pirateable seems a little backwards.
This is exactly what people said about every single Nintendo console when it launched. Give it another year or two. Maybe the Switch 2 OLED will have launched by then.