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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 81 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Nintendo is not your friend. It has no interest in passing any of its potential savings onto you, and the only reason it’s ever interested in your bank account is when it’s thinking about how much money it can get out of it.

Some (too many) people fail to understand this extremely basic concept.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's honestly very sad to see people defend these gaming corporations blindly, yes, including Steam, when they're doing anti-consumer things.

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

I'll take the bait... What anti-consumer stuff is Valve doing?

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 21 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Sure, here are my small list personal list of gripes, mostly minor except the first one.

  • Their continued stance on loot boxes and enabling of gambling.
  • They did try to do a paid mod system back in the day and got shutdown by gamers pretty quick.
  • Their initial discontinuation of batteries and LCD screens for their steam deck after only four years.
  • Their continued stance that they are selling revokable, non-transferable licenses and not games that you own.

Steam's a great company and overall very pro-consumer company in my opinion, more so than most of the other companies in the PC gaming realm but I'll criticize Steam when I see something I believe is anti-consumer regardless of my like for them because end of they day they're still just a corporation that prioritizes profits over people and it's just one death away from being enshitified like the rest of them.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

That have zero choice on the licensing at least for games they dont publish.

On the other hand they have kept installers for me long after the publisher has pulled their product.

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[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 4 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

In addition to the other comment, the only reason their famous refund policy exists is because Australia made them do it. And I really cannot stress how shitty the loot box stance is. Gamers hate loot boxes by and large yet somehow largely give Valve a pass despite the fact they hugely popularized the concept in the gaming space.

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[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 12 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

This is true of all companies in a capitalist society. People love to shit on Nintendo but Sony, Microsoft, Valve, yes even your previous Gabe is not your friend.

(that's a royal you btw, not calling out you specifically)

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, but some at least have some consumer friendly policies while they're squeezing you dry.

Not saying you should cozy up to suck them off or anything, but throwing everything in a single bucket labeled "bad" is big smooth brain moves.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This is true of all companies in a capitalist society. People love to shit on Nintendo but Sony, Microsoft, Valve, yes even your previous Gabe is not your friend.

There's a difference between publicly-traded and privately-owned companies. I'm not saying that large corporations are your friend, but it's rather disingenuous to categorize all of them with the same black & white stance.

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[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 53 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

“The common thread among Plaintiffs’ claims is that it is somehow ‘unfair'; that Nintendo has not retroactively adjusted its prices for completed sales in response to the outcome of the tariff litigation,” Nintendo’s statement continues, adding that this is “not how commercial transactions work.”

Then why the fuck would Nintendo themselves get a refund?

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Don't forget how many transactions have been impacted by the tarrifs. Hell we lost on some fixed price jobs at my work because we priced things before the tarrifs went in and by the time we ordered we were basically paying to finish a promised job. People need not be mad at Nintendo, this issue was caused by the pedophile in chief.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

People need not be mad at Nintendo

You don't hate Nintendo hard enough.

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[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 weeks ago

People need not be mad at Nintendo, this issue was caused by the pedophile in chief.

I'm in total agreement here, except for the fact that this is a separate issue. Nintendo didn't bring about the tariffs but they are the ones asking for the refund and deciding not to give it back to the people who paid that money in the first place, so while they aren't to blame for the tariffs, they are to blame for keeping the tariff refunds.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 5 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Because they were charged a tax they shouldn't have been charged. A buyer agreed to the price at retail. A lot of people can probably spot the difference.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 34 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah, like Cards Against Humanity spotted the difference and decided to not be anti-consumer asshats.

https://www.fastcompany.com/91500865/tariff-refund-cards-against-humanity-trump

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[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

They agreed to the tax by paying it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 7 points 4 weeks ago

I've had worse

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I’d say this argument probably doesn’t apply to something like, say, food. People can’t just opt out of eating. They can change their luxury spending to stuff that’s cheaper and doesn’t have to get imported.

I’d definitely like for this argument to be applied in Nintendo’s case, and I’ll be pleasantly surprised if a judge agrees, I guess I’m a little pessimistic though. Maybe I just have a low view of the justice system right now.

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

And Nintendo didn't pay the higher rate. They passed the costs over to the consumer. Nintendo got exactly what they paid for.

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[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree that there is a clear legal distinction, but it leaves a sour taste. Nintendo should have made this right for PR.

Though, on the other side of it, Stargate project is the reason DRAM prices went to the moon, so USA suffering a little is schadenfreude for me and probably Nintendo too.

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Nintendo should have made this right for PR.

Ha! Hahaha! Haha! When the fuck has Nintendo ever worried about PR? They've got their place in the market completely on lock and will open litigation against anyone and everyone who even looks at their IP in a way they don't like. Nintendo could release a console that required a pint of blood every time you boot it up, and as long as a Zelda comes out on it, they'll still sell out.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

They did those things, and also gave early 3DS owners a bunch of free games for buying the console during a bad period.

Nintendo are fickle, but this seems like the type of PR thing they'd of been in to.

[–] Awooooooga@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

As a canuck, pretty based of Nintendo lol elect a better president next time, yanks.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

But everyone else paid the same price as well (except for Japan).

[–] Awooooooga@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

US fucking the rest of us over, what else is new

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I'll toss it onto the massive pile of reasons I don't buy Nintendo shit.

And to head off any smug assholes who think they found a gotcha, no I don't buy from microsoft sony or valve either.

Sail the high seas or get shafted every time.

Buy consoles secondhand.

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[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

As if anyone needed more reasons to stop giving Nintendo any money. The Switch2 is hardly an improvement, the games library sucks for the value (that never decreases), their online features are still stunted in the 2000's era, and shocking no one, their company culture towards customers is "fuck you".

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck corporate greed. My library rents switch games and for every three games I rent, only one is something I might pay for (but don't have to). Who wants to spend 90 plus dollars just to take a chance on a game you might play for 10 minutes and decide you don't like it?

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

Hence why we should be fighting for rights with digital goods. eBooks can be checked out at the library, albeit not without multiple fights to get something relatively fair, and there's no good reason why this can't be implemented for all other digital goods, other than like you said, corporate greed.

[–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I hate Nintendo too. But they are not wrong in this case. Unstable politically motivated trade conditions raise prices.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

except it was not nintendo that paid the tariffs, it was the customer, and they profit based on percentage of cost, so the customers paid them more, and then they complained to get payed again for having to profit more, which is paid for with tax dollars,

so basically you paid for the privilege of paying them more.

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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Whose buying shit in 2026? Pirate everything. Fuck all these corporations and their profit.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm very happy to buy games from small indie developers. They absolutely need the money to survive, and I enjoy their work.

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[–] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Ah, good. They saw Sony and Microslop shooting themselves in the face repeatedly and decicded to get in on the action. Party's all here now.

[–] makeshift0546@lemmy.today 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Guys, I get that corps run amok but they are correct. They didn't trick you, or hide the price. This just isn't how shit works.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Getting paid twice for one transaction isn't how it works.

The buyers paid the extra tax to Nintendo to cover Nintendo's extra cost. Then Nintendo gets a rebate on the tax. So they just got that extra tax money for no fucking reason.

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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what Nintendo were meant to do. They probably shipped less units because of pricing. It would be impossible to actually hand that cash back to customers.

The refund just means that the consumer paid for it once, then the taxpayer paid for it again. Yes, they are the same people.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

Ah so prices will go down, right? Riiiight? Hahaha

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