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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I've always found it weird when world threatening events are typically concentrated in one country but it is to be expected that the majority of media from a country will take place in that country.

If the MCU were more realistic, there ought to be more international heroes but somehow almost all the earth heroes seem to be American (the only exception I can think of is Black Panther). I like that The Incredibles 2 features international heroes.

I also used to find it weird how in Digimon, the saviours of a whole other world just happen to all be from Japan. The second season brought in international digidestined but it doesn't change the fact that the ones who traveled to the digiworld to fight evil in the first season happened to all be from one small area of Japan

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There really aren't enough international characters but you forgot Wanda (Scarlet Witch), or her brother Quicksilver. Thor seems American but is from Asgard, Professor X is British I believe, Nightcrawler is German or Dutch I think... I'm sure there are more I'm not thinking of but at least there are some.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'm embarrassed I forgot about Wanda, she's one of my favourites. To be fair, she is living in America for much of the franchise. I also almost mentioned Shang-Chi, he's originally from China and most of his movie is set in China but he also grew up in America. The X-men aren't really part of the MCU yet but they will be in Doomsday. Wolverine is already part of the MCU and he's Canadian. As for Thor, I wasn't counting him as an earth hero because Asgard is another planet.

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Honestly, it helps with the suspension of disbelief. Some local author tried to tell urban fantasy stories in my home town... Its just too silly for me to read about a werewolf/vampire/alien fighting on the street I cross to get to the supermarket.

And of course it is absolutely masturbatoric, same as Japan and aliens invading Tokyo.

[–] ericwdhs@discuss.online 11 points 1 week ago

Funnily enough, I find NYC and Tokyo to be the least masturbatory targets for off-world interest.

NYC makes sense as a combined seat of international politics (see the UN building), economic power (largest GDP by city and Wall Street seeing 2/3rds of all public trade), and genetic representation for humanity (Queens being the most ethnically and linguistically diverse urban area on the planet).

Tokyo makes sense as the world's most populous metropolitan area and highest GDP by metropolitan area.

So, aliens scanning the planet or the Internet or whatever and thinking "we need to go here first" for either location is believable to me in an objective sense.

It also helps that there is often some background lore adding to why a particular location is important, which also includes explanations for Earth itself being important on a cosmic scale.

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

I know!! It's like when Thor repeatedly put the story in Norway's oldest town, the one I grew up in, and put it in a valley. The one very notable thing about the town is that it is on the opposite side of the country from the fjords and big valleys, and surrounds the castle on top of the mountain facing the sea.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago

I don't know why I'd expect a US production to be set in Germany and be about, uh, local superheroes (?). (In fact, thinking about it, I'd dread any such production unless the majority of the people involved are in fact German and know the country.)

Spider-Man doesn't work in our cities anymore than he works in a small US town.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

As a form of masturbation.

The same way I view the location of most anime being in Japan. It's just typical of the genre.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

It's pretty indifferent because Hollywood has an excellent track record of screwing up literally every aspect of a foreign country, even with next door Canada and Mexico, so people would rather just see a good movie than a bad depiction.

As for superheroes, I've always made the argument that most people actually don't care all that much about the current genre outside of fictional entertainment because to them it's purely fictional entertainment. Especially for 3rd world countries, they would find it dumb for some superhero to battle a supervillain in their hometown when there's a shitty government/military/cartel/mob right down the street that's done 999999x worse than whatever a fictional villain can threaten to do.

One of the reasons the Batman trilogy was so well received internationally is because unlike the rest of the superhero genre, it revolved around Gotham's decrepit justice system being reignited and actually leading to a systemic improvement in society, which is everyone's pipe dream.

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is Sekovia erasure! Again!

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

And Wakanda, and probably Latveria at some point. Also most of Guardians of the Galaxy.

[–] dragontology@retrofed.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reminds me of Doctor Who and how this awesome time-traveling, space-hopping demigod mostly only cares about this one random island (Great Britain).

The Doctor did come to America for a season (with the Eleventh Doctor, Matt Smith) and America has been mentioned a couple times (e.g. "New New York", though that was an alien city) but for the most part, the series is UK-centric because it's made in the UK.

Most anime takes place in Japan, if it's from Japan. The Apothecary Diaries is a recent one that takes place in China. That's weird. When anime is set in the west — for example, Fullmetal Alchemist and its sequel, Attack on Titan, Saga of Tanya the Evil, and SPYxFAMILY all being set in Germany, and The Promised Neverland taking place in the US (minor spoiler, some of these don't actually take place there, but you're led to believe they do) — Japan likes to make a live-action version that IS set in Japan, however ridiculous that ends up being. I guess they're a bit xenophobic, but so are we, so... not gonna hold it against 'em, but rather, just be thankful for more entertainment options.

So, it happens. Placing the action in another country. It's not normal, though.

[–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago

Doctor Who always ending up in London destroyed my sense of disbelief almost every time after the first few, until it hit me like a brick how wildly hypocritical I was being as someone who grew up close to NYC

[–] Zykino@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Its funny. "Oh the earth is about to explode? Only show it crack in the USA". Makes me feel safe knowing how much it is fictionnal and in no way related to me.

The globe, someone is painting it fully blue except for mainland America (even Alaska is under waters). The title read "How aliens see earth in movies". All of this in a tweet with the caption: "Aliens: This? This is your leader?" from bluecranium the 2023-08-19

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

That's something I like about the movie Home. It was an American movie but the main site of the alien invasion was Paris for a change

[–] enphurgen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Wolverine is Canadian so I dont really care

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 4 points 1 week ago

It's all fantasy and entertainment. We know that superheroes are not real and we don't care where they fight their enemies. It all could just as well be happening in made up lands like Middle-earth, Gotham City or Boston.

[–] king_comrade@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Most of Hollywood is yank wank, you kinda get used to it. Tbh Hollywood is way too ignorant to portray anything outside the states accurately.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It can't portray the united states accurately either.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

They love them. Supercape shit is wildly popular the world over.

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

I'm more annoyed that US movies puts places on earth in other places. Like Mission Impossible put a Norwegian mountain in Cambodia, Superman put Norwegian snowy mountains on the north pole and Star Wars took the exact same mountains and put them in a totally different galaxy, smh.

[–] vegafjord@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

Superheroes are cops with superpowers.

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is not always New York, Marvel puts its movies in New York as a form of running gag. Their first office was there.

Superman movie are more in California.

[–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Superman's Metropolis (?) is based on Cleveland (and the last movie was filmed there)

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you want to get technical, the original Metropolis, was Toronto Canada, where Joe Shuster wrote for the newspapers the Globe and Mail and Star Daily (which in his comics he combined into the "Daily Planet"), and Smallville was Halifax where he often spent time with family. He kind of shifted it to more closely match Cleveland after he moved to the US, but there's a reason his fortress of solitude is in the Canadian arctic.

[–] mbp@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

We have an old saying. All the best Americans are usually Canadian. May Keanu smile on you. 😉

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe I’m old but I was thinking the old one

Edit : my argument is being moot since there’s the New York skyline on the poster of the second movie 🤣

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

The original Marvel comics from the 1960s were all set in New York City, except for the Hulk, who roamed the US Southwest.

DC comics from that era spread the action in a variety of made-up cities, like Gotham, Metropolis, Ivy Town, Coast City and the like. Wonder Woman was based in Washington DC

[–] reader@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Captain France always Fights for France, in France.

[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Do you live in new York or LA? If not you know how it feels.

[–] dihutenosa@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Easy! We don't view, or watch, American superhero movies. Never saw them or their appeal.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That is bullshit.

  • The Dark Knight made 500 million in the US market and 400 million in the international market.
  • Batman V Superman the Dawn of Justice made 300 million in the US Market and 500 million in the International market.
  • The Avengers made 600 million in the US market and 900 million internationally.
[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Ok, but have you considered the fact that those numbers are actually pretty small for the international market considering that the US represents only about 4% of the global population? Even if you limit it to the English speaking world it's only about a 5th of the global population, and of the movies mentioned only Avengers even came close to having the kind of market penetration it did in the US (discounting how much of that international market number is made up of non-English dubs and subs).

Suggesting no one watches them is a bit of a stretch, but there are certainly a lot of people outside the US who just don't.

[–] dihutenosa@piefed.social -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Thou confusest my personal perspective with bovine excretions. I've heard the name "Batman", none of the rest rings any bells. I am hereby offering my opinion on American pop culture - we have no contact. Don't know, don't care.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well you sort of open yourself to this criticism when you say we, implying you speak for the whole of the non-US world.

[–] dihutenosa@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

Good point, thanks, I learned something.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why do you keep using the word 'we' if you only meant to talk about yourself?

[–] dihutenosa@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

Sorry, my bad. Initially I meant it as a "not everyone is an American" group with sample size = 1.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

I have no clue who your we is, but this and other parts of American pop culture are wildly success the world over.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's your personal media diet? Do you like similar adventure stories that are more local, or is that just not your thing overall?

[–] dihutenosa@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

What’s your personal media diet?

Books (mostly sci-fi - Permutation City by Greg Egan) are easy to fit into short slices of time.

Video games (Cataclysm: DDA, Dwarf Fortress) are nice when you have a hour or more to concentrate.

Music (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6rCu2Daeyo) is always nice. Doesn't demand much attention, if you can't spare much, but can absorb any amount of it (more complex stuff like Maurice Ravel).

Movies? I tried movies, but they require dedication (if I'm going to sit for 2 hours in front of my PC, I'd rather do something fun - and movie theaters are a whole new level of hassle), the content is either boring or nerve-wrackingly stressful.

IIRC, the last movie I watched was some Star Wars something - it had spaceships just sitting just above a planet (instead of orbiting - why wasn't it falling down like a stone?), and when one spaceship flew near another, there was audible sound (rumble) in the other one. I suppose they must have played this rumble over speakers, or something. I can suspend my disbelief and imagine the "laser" weapons that shoot slow-moving pink plastic-looking cylindrical things are mislabeled as "laser", and are actually firing some particle beams or something, but I can't forgive sound transmitted through space.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

Not every non-USian is as advanced mentally as you, please be patient with us.