Canada

looks about right.

TLDR: it's a hard balance without letting groups get derailed or astroturfed, but if we can't actively scale progressive efforts collectively, we will all die in our little lonely bubbles knowing that at least "i got mine," or whatever.

although i'd suggest a lot of the leftist infighting is instigated, a large part of it is the half-century of rich jerks attacking education and science, both systemically and culturally.

progressive groups tend to grow out of lived traumas, and seem weirdly easy to pit against each other due to their natural stress and defensiveness.

there are good examples like groups like atheists fighting and feminists while the heritage foundation and cohorts run away with the cake. atheists trying to ban circumcision in the USA? obviously it's because they hate women, better rally and attack them and make them defensive and not able to continue making the heritage foundation's corruption too salient. feminists academics figuring out how model social structures so that we can act with more basic freedoms and autonomy outside of the constraints of systems that we already know are not working? obviously these are the same people attacking the atheists for the misogyny of trying to get circumcision banned and sending them images of phallic mutilation. i wish more feminists successfully fought for a presentation counter to that, the same way one would not care to associate with TERFS (who act as progressives, but ignore trans rights through the same weird 'letting trans people exist hurts women somehow probably, don't think about it.' kinda crap.)

usually the problems (of people who actually care about general progressive ideals) boil down to bad/disabled communication, and refusal to actually engage with the perspective of the other group/party. i wish more progressive groups would grow an arm specifically for comprehending and enacting efforts at different scales, mixed with modern academic understanding of complex and high-dimensional living systems, which is an essay or five in itself. unless we collectively put value there, we just won't have the tools to properly scale collective intent.

i think all groups have an easily influenced chud populace, but these pots definitely feel additionally stirred, and i used to have a long list of little media corps that came and went doing nothing but articles stirring up divisive shit for congregate sites. trying to just talk about out how to make progressive cooperation work has gotten me banned from a weirdly high number of progressive communities as well over the past 2 decades, so i think it's safe to say this topic still hasn't been allowed to become salient enough.

solidarity is important for a reason. it's a shame i can't interact with half of the groups because if the subgroup starts lynching someone, and you say "these are innocent people catching strays, and 'punching up' by punching down at the 'bad identity group' when you have the power to do so is harmful to anything we should be trying to achieve from any actual academic comprehension of intersectionality and our high-dimensional lived reality. trying to encourage a group to act in a way that doesn't isolate them and hurt their effort just gets you banned, and now we are in modern times and it went as you would expect.

it's really hard to navigate these spaces because of how paradoxical the lived experiences become in diverse groups actively growing and further complexifying their own precision and weighting on polysemous boundings (such as the 'nobody agrees on what liberals are' problem.) also science communication is shit, so we don't have anyone actively communicating this stuff to the public, also i guess adults just have no incentive to learn anything ever unless they are already in an academically enabled pocket, which is its' own conversation. would really be a really functional spot for artists and other communicators, which do exist, but are mostly paid to make advertisements so people who have too much money can be more salient and make a bigger portion of the money. etc.

shit's broke.