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TLDR: The r/selfhosted subreddit has a Discord server. The owner's account got hacked leaving the server in a precarious state. They submitted a support ticket, but Discord has not taken action in weeks and probably won't at all, so they are considering starting a new Discord server.

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 75 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Fitting that r/selfhosted can't selfhost.

[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hosting costs money, maybe if you disable voice, video, uploads, and only allowed text it would be manageable but discord is free. I run my own chat server but it's only for like 10 people.

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[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 65 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

But why a new Discord server? 🤦

[–] Blurntout@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 weeks ago

That’s the punchline brother man

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"Fool me twice well... Shame on... Shame on...Point being we been fooled once we won't get fooled again!"

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Fool me twice, get a free ticket to fool me thrice.

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 65 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

selfhosted use Discord

Lol

Discord absolutely failed them They consider starting another Discord server

Double lol

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I definitely agree. Lol. But I also totally understand using Discord. I assume the community isn’t meant exclusively for people who currently self host, but also for people interested in starting to. In that regard, Discord will most likely be what those people have and are willing to use.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Correct. I have received help from that server in the past, and it's unusable now. Part of what I hope to accomplish is to replace Discord, or at least offer my friends an off-ramp. Getting started with Discord is way easier, and in the year 2026, I wouldn't know what other client to use to look for a community that gives me quick help via live chat. I no longer know how to use IRC, I've found.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

I get the point that that's where the people are, but also kinda feel like the selfhosted community should act as a vanguard to a point. Sure, maybe you have a 'front door' on a corporate platform, but kinda feel like in the case of selfhosted sticking to your principles and purposefully rejecting platforms that don't fit the vision is kind of important especially when you're currently in the middle of finding out why.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Also I feel like discord has a limited lifespan until it will necessarily turn into worse. They lose money each year so I wonder when their vc money runs dry

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Judging by the sales emails I've gotten from them they're trying to break into business use and compete with slack/teams. And all I have to say to that is "lol".

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

At least they’re admitting their fault.

Edit; Their matrix room if anyone is interested.

https://matrix.to/#/#selfhosted:selfhosted.chat

[–] MilkToast@breakfast.haus 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's kubernetes so I couldn't even fix it if I wanted to

lol

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

My hotest selfhosting take is that stuff I use in my day job, docker/k8s/cloud is not worth it and generally worse for long-term self hosting than a Debian box.

Like I have the skills to troubleshoot containerized setups, it's litterally my dayjob, but I'd rather not deal with it in my freetime unless there is no other way to run it.

[–] sandwichsaregood@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is that a hot take? I see a lot of people saying this, including myself. Kubernetes solves problems at work, but is way overkill even for my moderately elaborate home setup that would cause more troubles than it solves. If people want to use k8s at home go ahead, but I don't.

[–] esc@piefed.social 13 points 3 weeks ago

k8s is overkill for majority of companies as well

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

After using Proxmox for a while, I swear by LXC, at least the way it is provided there.

Makes containerization make sense without all the pain.

Disclaimer: not even an IT guy, so can be gravely mistaken, just want to own my stuff.

[–] Scrath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

Honestly, I'm really happy with the ability to just try out stuff with docker and then nuke the entire compose stack if it does not work. I also know perfectly where any possible leftovers from the attempt are (the bind mounts or volumes) and can be certain I deleted everything I "installed".

Although I have to admit that I absolutely had some issues with containers in the past, mainly when there are two or more containers with dependencies on one another

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[–] cookiecoookie@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They're a completely unserious owner if they use Discord still as a "selfhoster", that and getting hacked on top of that shows how careless they are as a moderator.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Self hosting and providing a public service are two very different things.

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[–] jay@pie.zerojay.com 14 points 3 weeks ago

Matrix, dudes.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Discord sucks.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago
[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Those saying "just self-host Matrix/Stoat/XMPP", do not understand the power of network effects. If people are too lazy to sign up on your custom server, and you end up with 50% of the users you would have gotten if you used Discord, is that worth it? What if it was only 10%?

I wish there were a solution to this. Interoperability sounds nice until you have multiple competing standards (like Matrix and XMPP)

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 6 points 3 weeks ago

The solution is for everyone to migrate to Jami, which is obviously the better option!

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Points furiously
THIS Alanis! This right here!

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

Why, use Redddit if you are in a self hosting community, I understand the community of curious people are there but are you really going to be selling yourself short like that? Than to be using discord as a self hosting community messanger?

[–] senorblackbean@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Stoat chat has been a good Discord alternative.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 7 points 3 weeks ago

last i checked it was very difficult to run your own instance (including voice chats)

[–] roundabout@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

It’s worked okay for me so far as well. The mobile apps aren’t super stable yet and notifications don’t work but it works for what it is right now. I do miss the stability of discord but I’m not going back

Fluxer as well. It has iOS and Android apps in beta too.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What advantage does it have compared to Matrix?/IRC?

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It mimics discord, so functional voice rooms with screen sharing, text channels, and so on..

[–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Matrix has all that these days too

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[–] JustDorky@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Guys, while we're at it.... Is there any discord alternative that has some kind of safe guarding against power tripping mods?

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I think the only safeguard against that is to do your own moderation. The only tool I can think of that would even come close to detecting "power tripping" would be AI, and we all know that would end terribly. The best you can do is remove incentives (somehow, idk) so mods aren't rewarded for a bad ban.

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