I know the Fallout show is really campy... but fuck, it always was really campy, way back to the beginning. That's actually staying true to form with the camp and the old west themes.

Let's just say it just scratches that itch well enough. We're not talking award winning performances except for maybe Walton Goggins, whose character has seemingly been given the most background story (which tracks for a guy who's been alive so long to have a... longer backstory) and the best material to work with, comparatively.

Anyway, both seasons are imperfect but a lot of fun if you can look past flaws. Looking forward to another campy romp in season 3... sad to see Dave Foley didn't make the cast list, though. I need more Yes Man in my life god damn it.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ella Purnell is super cute I wish I was her cousin.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No more cousin stuff!

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Fallout Alabama

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

The problem they're running into is having too many plot threads open at once. Which is apparently has been a problem with the producer in the past.

[–] misk@piefed.social -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I know the Fallout show is really campy... but fuck, it always was really campy, way back to the beginning.

Fallout 1 had some goofy bits but they were more like easter eggs than anything. Fallout 2 is when it embraced being campy in pulp 50/60s style but even then it was restrained to just that. Bethesda made it into a caricature of itself later with Fallout 3 and 4. New Vegas from Obsidian (who are ex-Black Isle guys, original creators of Fallout) tried to right the ship but the TV series also made a caricature out of it.

Fallout TV series is fine on its own but it definitely strays from what original games were like. I don’t mind people like new Fallout but why drag the original with it? Is it to appear cool because it implies you know the original? Someone disliking new Fallout games or TV series might never give FO1 a chance if they hear its like the new ones.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My man those are rose tinted glasses you're wearing. The whole plot with Gizmo in junktown is campy as fuck. There's enough pop culture references to make a nerd orgasm. People act like that shit started out with Fallout 2 but no way, there was tons of goofy shit in Fallout. It's a lot less well written than we want to remember ha.

[–] misk@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fallout 1 was Mad Max type of goofy. Fallout 2 started sprinkling pop culture references everywhere. There’s a big difference in humour between them.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_cultural_references

Give me a break, the evidence is there. This is all in Fallout, not Fallout 2.

[–] misk@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That’s not exactly a long list there.

Compare it to https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_2_cultural_references

Have you actually played Fallout 1?

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sequel to popular game has more things that people liked, more at 11!

[–] misk@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Seems like you agree with me that Fallout wasn’t drowning in pop culture references in the beginning. Why the sarcasm?

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m not interested in your pedantry, goodbye

[–] misk@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Goodbye. Apologies for the pedantry, I suspect restricted thinking patterns that don’t allow me to compromise on what is true might be part of the autism thing.

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Hey my bad, there are lots of pedants on the fediverse so I tend not to engage much further when I spot it. “Have you actually played Fallout 1?” really gave off “you like band? name every song” vibes.

I commented originally because it was an inherently silly argument. It’s like saying Google wasn’t successful because Alphabet has become so much more.

[–] misk@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

That was the intention even if I didn’t ask that directly. People try to act cool by pretending that they they’re familiar with something „classic” and to anyone who played old Fallout games it was plain obvious that they didn’t. I didn’t expect people to dogpile on me though.

To me this kind of rewriting history is really bothersome. What if someone didn’t like Bethesda Fallout games but since everyone says it was always like that they won’t ever give those old games a try?

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The majority of the games were campy. So far the show is FO2,3,4,NV Leaving out 1 is fine as most people played 2+ since it became popular after 2.

[–] misk@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago

My point is: no, Fallout didn’t start out as campy, it got gradually more campy over time.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

Season 2 had way too many story lines for an 8 episode show. Everything felt rushed and underdeveloped. It is a shame because several of those storylines were intriguing.

With that said, I will be checking out season 3.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ella Purnell getting to be in a show that is more than two seasons… yay!

No I have no interest in Fallout, just disappointed her other show wasn’t renewed for more.

[–] droans@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Sweatpea is getting a second season! Check it out if you haven't yet.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Annabel O’Hagan and Dave Register have also been promoted to series regulars for Fallout Season 3.

I would have assumed they already were regulars, a fair bit of the plot has revolved around them.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago

If there was ever a series that needed 22 episodes a season it was this one.

[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm not saying Rings of Power was a financial failure, but a 2024 show is getting a 3rd season before 2022 one... (I don't care about new LoTR. I got the books and the movies. Don't need Rings of Power or those Gollum movies)

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

ROP sucked teh budget out of other shows.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What is your post trying to say?

[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Amazon is trying to prove that Rings of Power isn't losing money, but the fact they are greenlighting other shows faster than others implies that Fallout is making money, while Rings of Power isn't.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Season three of ROP is scheduled to be released in November of this year.

Amazon paid 750 million dollars for the rights for ROP and part of that deal was a five season commitment. I doubt they were ever be any discussion on if the next season will be “greenlit” or not until after S5 is released.

If the show is successful or not for Amazon I have no idea nor do I really care. I quit watching that dogshit in episode 2 of season 2.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

S2 was very underwhelming to me.

I'm a longtime fallout fan and I'm indifferent to a S3

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Season one was good because they took some risks and i don’t think people expected it. But if they continue to safe it its going to be just another show.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

out of all the fan service they could have done…. having the courier in a dented NCR Ranger armor blow away an enemy with the gauss rifle or the ranger sequoia, or the 50 cal sniper, and then give a thumbs up before he teleports back to the sync in big mountain with the mysterious stranger music playing would have had people going nuts…. but sure, let’s pretend the courier after getting dug out of his grave just crawled back in the ground, and had no effect on the story of vegas. it’s like they have to choose one thing per region to shit on. can’t wait to find out the east coast brotherhood of steel turned into genocidists and poisoned the drinking water to kill all mutants but now kills everyone! can’t wait

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

courier did yes man ending, then fucked off to go fuck a couple of light switches at big mt. without courier in vegas, things fell to anarchy which iirc is usually what happens in most yes man endings

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

no, he didn’t. the ONLY indication that the courier was ever involved is that house states that sometimes he trick people into fake killing him. no other indication of possible involvement is shown, the fact that the assaultrons are not upgraded means the platinum chip was never in play. that and victor is still kicking around. it would have made more sense if there was evidence that the curior decided to go to ulysses and decided to nuke both the NCR AND the legion, due to their basically non existence.

the show seems more interested in telling its own story but leaning on the trappings of established games, and not really respecting their contributions. which seems to be a common theme, nuking shady sands has the flimsiest reasoning and is antithetical to the story they ape from but they didn’t want a fortified idealic settlement to get in the way of the aesthetic. again if they wanted to do that, blaming the courier would have made the most sense, but then you couldn’t blame Lucy’s father. it was all very lazy

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

nuking shady sands is what would have happened in van buren, and something a fallout new vegas dev continually pushed for. and with courier its damned if you do damned if you dont. there will never be any winning with showing the courier or talking about the courier

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

make the courier the good guy make the courier the bad guy. but don’t pretend he was never there!

even better! have them established as a bogey man. none knows what they are responsible for and so they get blamed for EVERYTHING both good and bad. have them still do the mysterious stranger cameo. make it annoying coy about the characters gender. have him at war with Mr. House as to why they are Lucy’s mysterious stranger, which plays into her ridiculously high plot armor/luck stat!

HOW COULD A FACILITY ABOUT LOBOTOMIZING PEOPLE NOT BE BIG MOUNTAIN! CHRIST!