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Imagine you would see a fact that contradict your deepest believes, the core of who you are. This fact is uncontestable, is evidence in its purest form, is something that happened and you know with 100% certainty that it happened. But this fact also is against what define you as a person, your most profound thoughts. Either political, religious , philosophical or moral believes, whatever sits deepetin you.

Do you think this evidence would make you change your mind, or not?

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[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I mean it would probably fuck with me pretty bad. But ultimately I'd probably accept it Ifthe proof that as airtight?

[–] sunsofold@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

If I had my understanding of the world that deeply shaken, I'd be in the throws of Lovecraftian insanity. I would have even less certainty of anything than the already low certainty I have now. That's a 'vampire problem.' There's no way of guessing what I might do if I was that fundamentally derealised.

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I make it a point of principle to never be dogmatic, and nothing can change my mind.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 days ago

Lol.

Enjoy my upvote.

[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago

If it’s presented coherently and I can clearly map it against my own preconceived notions, yes.

If it’s a bunch of sloppy catchphrases that would require me to do a bunch of work and research to unpack their argument and THEN apply it to my world, no.

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 days ago

I'm a natural skeptic. Everything I believe is up for reëxamination and debate.

[–] tigermountain@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

You'll be surprised when you find out how much cognitive dissonance people can tolerate.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

I wouldn't have the beliefs I do today if I was incapable of being persuaded by logic, facts, and statistics.

[–] wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Again? I'd just give up having values at this point and become even more absurdist I guess

[–] Elting@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago

I would hope I could change my mind in light of overwhelming evidence, but likely I would rather make note of an alternative view and quietly reject it. Perhaps sitting with the evidence for a long time would make it more tenable to me.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thanos was right, change my mind.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

snap

you no longer exist thus your position and any argument you may have had for it is irrelevant.

....also like, he mainly said he did it because too many people = they starve and fight over scarce resources.

ecological systems will generally maintain a steady state so long as they can adapt to gradual changes, are not exposed to virulent invasive species, and do not have rapid population booms.

Thus, just snap to alter the genetics of species that tend to overbreed/overconsume in a resource rich environment to have proportionately lower fertility rates when their environment is seemingly abundant, or just, in general.

But nope, this doesn't occur forehead folds man, who is, i will remind you, a genius.

He decides to be an invasive species via his imperial expansionism, and then to massively unbalance every ecological system in the universe that involves sentient/sapient species... two things that are guaranteed to exacerbate and cause the thing he says he wants to stop or prevent.

Bro doesn't understand ecology or biology, he just has PTSD and CTE he erroneously thinks is stoicism.

Its like being presented with the trolley problem, but you have magic god powers that can just slow the trolley to a gradual stop....and then throwing the switch lever anyway.

Its ....really just bad writing, especially given that a fair number of the Avengers themsleves, in universe, should canonically know what I just explained. But this never occurs to any of them either.

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago

Yup, struggled with those two movies because of what I thought was self-evident :-/

There were some cool buts, though

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

Yup, had that happen to my a bit just last week ... and it's almost painful to change one's beliefs, but for me there's no way out of it.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

The proven truth will always change my mind. I guess I'm pro-science.

[–] moondoggie@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I don’t have any beliefs that define me as a person and don’t really have any deepest believes. I grew up in the south for almost 30 years, moved to the west coast for five, then over to the east coast for another 20. Politics, religion, philosophy, and morality are all a sliding scale depending on what and how much is around you. Things are what they are where you are. The farther you expand your circle, the more room you have for new viewpoints. People everywhere are amazing and kind, people everywhere are boring and shitty. You’ve gotta keep your mouth shut and your mind open until you get the lay of the land. Then you find your family and grow together.

Still, I’d rather be dogmatic than catmatic.

[–] RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

I don't need beliefs that inflexible.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago

I would hope so, but you're laying it on pretty thick with this hypothetical scenario. Makes it hard to imagine.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Only about belief (from cosmology to ethics), not material reality. And yes, they're two fields that simply cannot mix, but the latter can lead to/point towards the former.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago

I can't really think of many deepest beliefs that could even be contradicted. The core of who I am isn't really to have strong opinions on something, but instead to be chill and touch grass from time to time.

[–] CombatWombat@feddit.online 2 points 3 days ago

Absolutely. There are things that I believe that I know in my very heart of hearts are incorrect, and I simply have to believe them to continue operating as a human being. For me, it is much more important that an idea is useful than that it is correct. You can tell me as many times as you want that as one human of 8 billion on a tiny planet on the outskirts of an unremarkable galaxy that I simply do not matter, but I'll never stop believing that I do.

[–] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 2 points 3 days ago

I fucking hope so. But then again, I’m an idiot so i might not 🙃

No, evidence changes my opinions all the time.

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

I've changed before, I could probably do it again.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 1 points 3 days ago

Sometimes.

So I work hard to not be.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago

Definitely got the dog in me, I think I can get matic too.