they don't sell as well in Australia because, well, we have lots of competition I guess.
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Reminder: Hyundai motor company donated $1 million to the orange MAGAt king’s inauguration.
Do you have a citation for this claim?
FEC Form 13 filing that lists all donors: https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00894162/1889684/f132
“HYUNDAI MOTOR AMERICA” is listed as having donated “$1000000.00” on 2025-01-06.
There are a lot of other companies that donated similar amounts to which people should pay attention.
Their most recent OTA update also allows you to disable location sharing, presumably to conform to California law.
I would definitely have gone for an Ioniq 5 as well if money was not a question. But at the end of the day, the Ioniq 5 was overkill for my use case so I ended up going for a used Hyundai Kona. Still very happy with my choice, even if I would've loved an Ioniq 5. But it did save me like 60.000 DKK.
I have an Ioniq 5. It’s great. Highly recommended.
I'll look into it when they unfuck the interior.
Those are pretty sweet. Was looking at those before I bought its cousin the Kia EV6. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned.
I bought one last year and it’s been a delight.
I have many complaints about it and they’re all incredibly petty.
Man I love mine but I do have a lot of complaints. Like a bunch of things that just don’t make any sense, like the doors unlock when you walk up but don’t lock when you walk away? You also can’t lock the doors using the door buttons if you want to lock and walk away, so fucking annoying. There’s a lot of small things, but it charges so fast and it’s so nice inside.
You can disable the "unlock on approach" in the settings. I did on mine because that annoyed me the same way.
I also turned off lock when walking away. Sometimes I just forget something and have to run back for it...
Car now only locks or unlocks if I push buttons on the fob. That's what I prefer!
These kind of little things, plus the iccu and driver awareness sensor on 2025+ is what made me buy a '25 Mach E instead. They each have their quirks and the I5 is a better car on paper, but the Mach E is better in practice. I'll take a reliable ICCU, more sensical battery preconditioning, and driver profiles over the 800V architecture that DC charges slightly faster.
And it locks the doors when you walk away like you mentioned. It's the little things.
Hey bruh, you wanna skip forward a song on this playlist? Toggle down on the steering wheel control.
You. Dirty. Mother. Fucker.
This kinda makes sense because you're going down in the playlist... But other cars use left and right 🤷
Yeah, the raining becomes for apartment when you're in the SiriusXM channel list. Higher numbered channels are down the list.
This bugs me a bit too, but only that much.
I think what bugs me more is that the audio controls are on the right of the steering wheel. My older Kia, and my Mazda, have them on the left which makes more sense to me since you have audio control available with both hands (one on steering wheel and one on dash) instead of both on the right. But, again small potatoes.
Hyundais other cars use up. Even their other brands like Kia use up. It makes no sense.
I want an EV and I like Hyundais (having owned one in the past), but reading comments like these reminds me that having a "modern" computerized car would drive me nuts. And that's on top of the surveillance and lack of right to repair being deal-breakers.
...looks in rear view mirror at the lack of rear wiper...
I think they added it in the 2025 model. It’s definitely there on my 2026!
I think this is what “want an EV, research it heavily” folks tend to end up with, where Teslas leans more “want an EV, don’t research it quite as heavily” crowd.
Not that either brand makes bad cars.
I just mean the Hyundai/Kia EVs are less “sexy” on the surface. Their charge and range is lower, but if you look into it, it’s an engineering compromise for faster charging. Hyundai isn’t a very “glamorous” brand, but their recent cars have been excellent, and if you actually look into Tesla, well… gestures at X. Lower end Teslas are priced somewhat attractively and tend to have better resale value than Hyundai at the moment, and it’s quite rational to assume “well, they’ve been making EVs longer.” But if you research it, Teslas have a more hidden costs over time, and even though some systems like the heatpumps are less refined than Teslas, Hyundai engineered the heck out of the car.
The only downside I know of with the Hyundai is that their single pedal driving controller interprets US law about braking strictly and does not turn on the brake lights unless you dump the pedal, engaging the brake rotors. So either just don't use single pedal driving mode, or have faith that US drivers don't drive distracted (this is an endorsement for not using Hyundai's single pedal driving mode btw)
I was behind a Tesla that stopped at a red light from ~40mph and the brake lights didn’t turn on until about 10 seconds after we had come to a complete stop. One pedal driving is broken in basically all of them.
My wife's Ioniq 6 turns on the brake lights when it is doing regeneration braking, so you are misinformed (unless it is a recent change; hers is a 2025). I can't imagine that your version has ever been true, though.
that's great news! it looks like they started fixing this in 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0YW7x9U5TQ
here's some context
Also their failing ICCUs. They keep trying to fix it, but people keep reporting it's not fully solved.
It's selling even better than Cybertruck?
I noticed the cybertrucks trucks disappearing in my area.
Along with fellow humans giving CT drivers the bird and snarky notes under their one dumb windshield wiper, they're also just... not very good vehicles. The steering is vague, the acceleration is ass because the vehicle is so heavy, and they get the gremlins if they get wet and they weren't set to car wash mode. So some drivers are going to be quietly trying to trade them in for shame, and some are going to be perpetually in the shop getting fixes for problems they never should have been allowed to have in the first place
I nearly got an Ioniq 5 as our second car, but ended up getting a BMW i4 instead. I was very impressed with the Ioniq 5 - it's a fantastic car. We already had an iX though, andI figured it'd be best to stick to something with the same UI. I'm mostly a frontend developer and UI quirks really get to me, so I'd rather just deal with one set of quirks.
Getting a 2t 800v road trip adept EV as a "second car" is a massive flex holy fuck
How's the i4 (and iX) been? Any complaints or issues?
They're both very nice cars! No complaints.
The i4 is great because it looks like a regular car. It's literally just a 4 series grand coupe with an electric drivetrain. No gimmicks, no "the car needs to look futuristic" approach that so many manufacturers take with their EVs. The door handles are regular mechanical door handles.
The iX is... not exactly the opposite, but close enough. My understanding it that it was a concept car that BMW ended up releasing publicly. It's got an expensive electrochromic glass roof that you can switch between clear and frosted by pressing a button. It's got flush, electronic door handles. It's got a carbon fiber chassis. Things like that.
The iX is extremely comfortable for back seat passengers, as the back of the car is huge!
Everything the i4 can do, the iX can do at least a bit better. For example:
- i4 can do hands-free highway driving up to 40mph, whereas the iX does it up to 85mph.
- Both have options for parking and 360 cameras, but the cameras on the iX are noticeably higher resolution.
- i4 has air suspension for the back, whereas iX has air suspension for all four wheels.
- They're both great to drive, but the iX is smoother and quieter. The cabin is extremely quiet even at highway speeds.
The i4 is a lot cheaper though. I'm leasing both, and the i4 is less than half the price of the iX. I'm in the USA and we're paying $812/month plus tax for the iX, and $394/month plus tax for the i4, thanks to a combination of rebates, BMW loyalty discount (for the i4), and a 10% discount off MSRP.
We custom ordered the iX. It took a few months, but we could get exactly the options we wanted. It doesn't cost any extra to get a custom-built one compared to getting one from a dealer's lot.
Unfortunately, the iX has been discontinued in the USA. They cut off custom orders a few months ago, and dealers don't have many left. Rumor is that tariffs made it cost too much to import into the USA. The iX5 is supposed to replace it, but it's not coming out until next year.
hands free at 85 is some scary shit
I don't use it quite that fast, but it works very well. It has radar and ultrasonic sensors in addition to cameras, and you can only use it on routes they've mapped out (in the USA that's most of the highways), so I'd trust it more than Tesla.
for sure better than tesla
probably better than most humans
but all code has bugs, still scary