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The built in "app stores" that come on Linux distros are also complete jokes, the ones I've tried to use anyways.
Not a fan of KDE Discover. Bazaar looks promising.
Snap store can get the hell outta here.
Discover is ok... If you limit it to only managing Flatpaks.
I'm not sure I'd ever trust a GUI to manage pacman/apt/dnf
I'm gonna be honest, 99% of what I need to do, I do through Discover. Like, why would I bother typing a command out when the update button is right there.
I actually like both Bazaar and discover. I enjoy using them to just browse for interesting apps. For linux to ever become adoptable for more people, good GUIs are absolute must haves. If you don't like them that is of course fine, but it serves the greater good to have the option of using them.
The most obvious bait to be was 1 hour install time. Windows 11 took 2 hours to install, CachyOS took like 5 minutes. I imagine Arch is similar, there is simply no way. Lol

The biggest fucking lie
Updating. Do not turn of computer.
100% complete
Also: "Update and shut down"
Did you say "update and shutdown while also rebooting?"
Coming back to my PC and it being on when I expect it off, along with the notification that I hadn't used notifications in a while, is what pushed me over the edge to running linux for everything.
I use win only at work anymore, no choice. Uodate and shut down is the biggest fucking lie. I press it every time, it never did shut down.

"...in geological terms."
I remember installing Arch on an ancient MacBook I've got. Set the installer going then put it to one side knowing it was going to take a while.
It took about 7 minutes.
Of course, I then spent two hours trying to get the fucking Broadcom drivers to work, but that's by the by.
I recently figured out that Windows installs can go way faster if you have a slightly better USB stick. I bought an Intenso High Speed Line 64 GB for 10.90β¬ and it cut down the time by half or even two thirds I would say.
Of course I try to avoid installing Windows in the first place, but I'm not just working on my own machines.
The performance comments were a dead giveaway.
Nobody's complaints with setting Linux up are that it runs slowly.
It may not run much of anything until you sort out your drivers properly, but it will do everything incorrectly LIGHTNING fast, compared to Windows.
Man that subreddit is a trip. Really funny to actively hate FOSS on ideological grounds because you just love corporations and markets so much.
Thereβs one here on Lemmy too. I got banned this morning for sharing this post lol.
Hereβs a post from it defending Telemetry of all things.
Yeah I was just about to edit my comment to mention that. Like bro why are you here it's built on the same ethos you hate in linux.
Man that madthumbs guy is really trying to make that a thing and it's kind of sad and lonely that he's off by himself pretending he has a community...
I feel like he's gonna get banned for posting this on that subreddit lmao
He 100% going to be banned, I was banned with doing nothing wrong there. The mods there are bit crazy
Did none of the commenters read the sixth point?
That's why negative news sells so well.
You just have to have a good rage bait title and can write literally anything under it and the discussion will be about fantasies manifested in peoples heads based on the title.
They had us in the first 83%.
#2 gave it away because you'd have to royally screw something up in Arch to get KDE to lag like that lol.
It might be minimalist but it's not unperformant out of box.
The only time i had issues with KDE when i was using a PC with 384 MB RAM (plasma 4)
I wouldnt blame that on kde
I'm sitting here reading these comments as the low-end Dell laptop I just picked up for software testing is booting up and updating Windows. For logistic reasons, had to pick one up today, so had the pleasure of dealing with Best Buy sales staff π
From powering it up, it's been 1.5 hours with updates and multiple restarts. Half of it was spent showing a progress indicator with a carousel slideshow of all the great AI tools I have no interest in using. Then it insisted on signing in with a Microsoft cloud account.
It's been eons since I actually ran a fresh copy of Windows. Amazed people still put up with all this nonsense.
Seriously, dealing with Windows OOBE is like walking through a used car lot.
"Decline offer" "Decline offer" "Not right now" <hey, we need to update! See you in 30 minutes!> "Remind me in three days" "Turn off cloud backup" "Yes, I'm really sure" "Decline offer" "Share minimum telemetry" (oh, you thought you could turn that off? Lol. Lmao, even)
I don't know how anyone finds that mess easier than linux.
I know this is satire but Arch is like the worst distro for a newbie...
Not for a newbie who wants to learn. Arch is actually not difficult at all, just time consuming. If you do a manual install, you have to read about every step and make choices.
Thats how you learn your system. After install, you know exactly what files you modified and where they are if you want to make further changes.
I think it's a beautiful system. Its not for people who just want a windows replacement though. It's for people who wants to know their system.
People don't realize the power that comes from actually knowing how your system works. It's the same as learning any skill. It gives a feeling of confidence and comfort.
Haven't used Windows in a hot minute, do you actually have to install WLAN drivers manually there?
No, the windows updater usually grabs them just fine.
But if you do a clean install using the image from microsoft, then it's very likely it won't have a working wifi driver until you run updates. Which you know... it needs the internet to do.
most network and wifi chips made before the spin of windows are supported by built-in drivers.
I love this copypasta, I love my linux, I hate my windows. But let's be honest with ourselves for a second and completely ignore the punchline of this meme.
Those ARE valid criticisms of linux distros. Arch is not for casuals so you should be aware what you're getting into before stepping in, however your everyday-consumer-facing distros like Mint are still far from providing a fully comfortable day to day experience.
I love my Mint, I'm never going back to windows, I'm a technical person and I had to use AI to help me run my nonograms game without it injecting cocaine into my CPU.
The second issue was too blatant, I knew I was getting the old 4chan bait and switch
I can use most any operating system. I can even enjoy most of them. Understand the βwhyβ of it and even Apple has amazing answers to βwe solved X by doing Y.β
Then thereβs windows. It does things differently than everyone else, which does have merit in theory. But if you have had decades to prove your point and still havenβtβ¦.maybe youβre just fucking wrong.
Wait, windows ships with Dolphin these days?
π€·ββοΈ OPβs bait isnβt perfect. But apparently you can download Dolphin for Windows
Back in the KDE 4 days, you used to be able to run the whole DE on Windows.
i remember windows not having drivers for wireless and wired networking and requiring an internet connection to install.
had to find a usb ethernet adapter to install. absolute insanityβ¦
" Here sweetie. Play with this nice green round toy and don't worry anymore. "

had us in the first half ngl
I agree with 1,2 and 3 but I don't really understand the remaining 2,
I've never across the 6 systems I've had, had windows brick an install to the point it no longer can restore without me doing something really wrong (usually something stupid on the Linux partition). it's way of handling updates and upgrades is actually something I miss on my current system, with windows if it failed the update it rolled itself back, on Debian I gotta roll a snapshot,which isn't hard but takes longer and is manual.
I've also never had an issue with the UI not looking uniform, or at least anything worse than anything not Apple.
To be fair I have done all of those to Linux PCs. Who here has never blown up a Linux install? Ubuntu is not even immune to tinkering.