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[–] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think we're at the point where this hardly matters.

  • Make backups? No, they've been encrypted for decades.
  • Slot in a game so you don't have to juggle the internal limited storage? No, you have to copy disc contents to storage anyway.
  • Use disc data to avoid needing to download on slow internet? No, already made meaningless by enormous day 1 patches.
  • Keep access to media when accounts may be banned and digital titles may be revoked? No, the always-online games can be deactivated whenever the publisher wants. There's no reason to expect them to permit your console to play disallowed offline games either. "Age assurance" is going to come for games, and if your account doesn't have the flag, your 18+ disc won't work.

It's sad for discs to be discontinued, but it's just formalising what's already true.

I guess what they intend with this move is to kill the second-hand games market. The absolute bastards.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So PS6 is in 2028 and will not come with a physical drive reader so they can cut off access to anything at anytime for whatever reason. Also you need to show your government issued ID which will totally never be used to lock down your media or surveillance your activities.

[–] pongo1231@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Even with a physical drive reader they can still cut off access at any time. Tbh I never really understood the value of a physical disc when its contents are heavily encrypted and this is the natural path for proprietary consoles where regular internet access is enforced and you can lose the "privilege" to play the game you bought at a whim anyways.

[–] ClassIsOver@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Resale value. You can't buy discounted used copies of digital games.

[–] pongo1231@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

Good point.

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Yeah, DRM with or without the internet is a major problem in this space and the "physical only" people refuse to even consider this aspect.

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[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

"Please drink verification can"

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago
[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I feel like consoles are gonna face problems when products like Steam Machine become more available and cheaper. Ignoring the crazy hardware prices right now, I would gladly pay $100 more for reasonably worse performance if it means the console, which has the potential to be a full fledged computer, is arbitrarily locked to essentially become a machine that milks me for Sony Entertainment Ltd.

I can't listen to music on my PS5 because I don't want to use spotify. It has no browser, cannot copy saved games etc. Something like Steam Machine on the other hand lets you mod your games, has access to multiple storefronts including DRM free ones.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago

a machine that milks me for Sony Entertainment Ltd.

peterson-red

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They just pulled 500+ movies users had purchased from their libraries.

They are also shutting down ps3 and vita stores next year, downloads will not work after that. I would definitely not be buying a new console unless it was hacked/has cfw.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You know what, I'm glad I'm avoiding all this drama by no longer buying consoles and just sticking to steam; last consoles I got was the PS3 and the Xbox360 and I haven't had them plugged in for years. I've got ancient games on both GOG and steam and there's little fear of anything in my library being kept from me or taken from me.

[–] Aradino@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean this is just Sony doing what valve did twenty years ago. Steam is no better

much much easier to defeat steam drm than hack a locked down console.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes, but short of PS exclusives, steam has a far larger library and I just need the PC I was always going to have rather than going out of my way to buy a console; also more than just this story, apparently Sony is taking away people's movies that they paid for. If I buy something on steam or GOG, 99.99% of the time I'm keeping it for life (there's apparently a handful of games that were taken off stores AND people's libraries).

EDIT: Additionally Sony is apparently shutting down their....PS3 stores? I'm not sure if this means your digital PS3 games can no longer be downloaded, if the store will no longer work on the PS3. Even if it only means it won't work on the PS3 any more, it means my PS3 will only be good for playing hard copy games I own.

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

At least both of those can be hacked with relative ease now

I'm honestly surprised they're still make them as we speak. Physical media's been dead for a decade...

Plus, this is pure capitalism. Why would they bother spending more when they can instead keep more?

[–] abc@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ah yes, I cannot wait until everything in gaming is license based and cloud based. You will subscribe and download every publisher's launcher, peon. You will buy a game and accept the fact that the publisher can just revoke it out of your library at any time. You will pay $1,000 for a console that won't let you play games you bought from the previous console.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

And of course, if you have no internet for some reason or are in a place with poor internet connection, fuck you.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How about I keep my $1000 and play the PS2 library instead. I don't want ultra-realistic wrinkle textures!

Me in 2040: "Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter."

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

there's genuinely a lot of sales in third world countries for people that consider resale value essential and/or have bad internet connection. fuck them i guess?? small markets dominated by PC and console piracy are not profitable i suppose

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This, like many other things, is likely driven by like 50% of all economic activity coming from 10% of the population. You no longer need to bother marketing to the poor, because they have no money. So instead just jack prices and sell only to that 10% who have all the money.

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

K shaped economy type shit

[–] RondoRevolution@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

You will own nothing and will like it.

[–] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Rip second hand market you will be missed

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

No wonder GameStop converted to mainly toys and trading cards

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[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

:dont-make-me-tap-the-sign:

If buying something isn't owning it then piracy isn't stealing

[–] Letztertod@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

Not like I have money for latest consoles but man that hurts still.

[–] ClassIsOver@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

That makes the decision to get the next Playstation REALLY easy.

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

I havent cared about consoles in a long time (PC only gamer ) but I feel for the people who enjoy playing on consoles since the future over there looks kinda shitty.

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

So what happens to the $100 more expensive version of their console to enable reading physical games?

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Use it to watch blu-rays while they're still being made, I guess.

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A portend of things to come for blu-rays as well.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

No one is allowed to own anything.

Enjoy capitalism. The greatest and only viable system.

[–] curmudgeonthefrog@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I remember when Sony made a big show of keeping physical discs for the PS4 at E3 a decade ago. Guess we're not getting a big presentation on stage for this one

speaking of gaffes, i can't wait for the $999 song when new console prices are announced. maybe there'll be a new giant enemy crab too.

[–] whatdoiputhere12@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

fuck yeah i'm excited

said no one ever

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

lol I’m just going to assume that the people I’m seeing online taking the contrarian position are bots because what else can you do

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Doesn’t PlayStation still delete some of the games digital games they’ve had in the past, rendering your purchases completely useless? I remember this happening with a couple of my ps4 games I bought as a teen and can only imagine that it has gotten worse

I don’t know why I’m pretending to be shocked, I genuinely feel like the average person just doesn’t understand this and the average console gamer just continues to fall in line as they complain about the newest edition of 2K being the same as the last ten of whatever

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

console gaming is brainrot

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