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This search should obviously return the official Docker Hub Redis image, https://hub.docker.com/_/redis, but it's just a bunch of blogs.

On DuckDuckGo the first result is the Docker Hub image, which is what everyone would want.

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[-] pipows@lemmy.today 68 points 9 months ago

You asked for docker redis image, received docker.com talking about redis, and redis.io talking about docker

Idk that seems pretty on the point to me

[-] wkk@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

With such a query the first expected result would be https://hub.docker.com/_/redis, and then blog posts if really that's what you want.

On my device I cannot find a link to dockerhub at all with the same query.

[-] h3rm17@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

No, it wouldn't. If you wrote dockerhub instead of docker, then it would be. Or maybe a "site:" dork.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I don’t see the problem here. Those are the pages with the download links (and also instructions to use them, for folks who need it)

What did you want, a direct download link to a file? An FTP site?

You literally got what you asked for. There are plenty of examples of Google search sucking, this is you just being pissy because there’s instructions on a download page.

[-] Bongles@lemm.ee 24 points 9 months ago

This search should obviously return the official Docker Hub Redis image, https://hub.docker.com/_/redis,

That's what they wanted and it's the first result in seemingly every other search engine.

[-] devdad@programming.dev 64 points 9 months ago

Google definitely has its moments of returning crap results, but you chose a terrible example.

Results from both docker and redis, on topic for exactly what you asked for.

Why even use Google at all, when you could search docker hub If that’s what you knew you wanted.

[-] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 9 months ago

For anyone wondering, here's that same query in DDG (zoomed out to show same amount of results)

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

This is the moment I switch to DDG. I started using google in 2003 and I think I’m done now.

[-] t0fr@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago

This is definitely what I'd want if I search for this

[-] rem26_art@kbin.social 35 points 9 months ago

man SEO really has managed to break search. There's so many random blogs that just have pretty much just your search terms in the title and rarely have anything else of use.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago

There's usually just AI-generated meandering with no actual information in it.

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I agree with OP here, these results are not great.

OP searched for the redis docker image, not a tutorial on how to use it, not a tutorial on why redis should be run in docker, and did not search for redis docker docs. While these are relevant, they should be further down, not the top result. DDG gets this right, and I'm pretty sure other search engines do too.

For a total newbie, these results are probably OK, but for a technical person who knows what they want literally as they type it, Google's results are (excuse my french) simply shit. DDG is miles better at handling this stuff, and they don't need your personal data to do it well either.

Edit: Just went and searched "redis docker image" in a private tab on Google, and the docker hub image for Redis is not even shown on the first page of results

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 14 points 9 months ago

idk.... the first two results seem both relevant and authoritative.

[-] wkk@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

You may not be a developer, but the first expected result with that query would be a link to https://hub.docker.com/_/redis

Google is really bad at this for some reason and will point you to blogs that as a dev I don't care in the slightest. Hell, using the same query I cannot find a single link to dockerhub on my device, it's extremely frustrating

[-] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago

I'm a developer and I'd much rather have the docs. Who the fuck can remember FROM reddis?

[-] wkk@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

It's important to look at the dockerhub page to see the available tags (I usually prefer smaller images like alpine)

[-] wkk@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

The usage docs for the docker image should be in the dockerhub readme.

But the first result to the query docker redis image should be the dockerhub entry, followed maybe by blog posts and tutorials.

Otherwise you can query something like redis doc or redis docker tutorial.

[-] UkaszGra@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Isn't duckduckgo just bing with disabled tracking?

[-] toofpic@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

cough-bing is actually alright, sorry-cough

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago

I had a similar experience today. I wanted to run a battlefield 2042 server and forgot the URL.

(It’s https://portal.battlefield.com)

So I google searched for “Run a battlefield 2042 server” thinking obviously that would lead to that page. Nope, all it gave me were blog posts and wikihow shit.

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

On kagi, the first result is also the docker hub link. This example is not actually that bad though, the first 2 results at least still relevant (from docker and redis domains) instead of some random blogspam (3rd result).

[-] flyingjake@lemmy.one 5 points 9 months ago

Funny I unintentionally searched kagi with the keywords in the wrong order - and got it in the first resultkagi search results with image link first

[-] zzx@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Kagi is so good

[-] TurtleTourParty@midwest.social 1 points 9 months ago

It's the second result for me.

[-] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

I was searching how to cast the screen on an Android phone through USB yesterday, and I had to go through pages of "free" Play Store apps and their shitty tutorials, some of which I downloaded, (one had 50 million downloads) two of which were identical skins of each other that wanted payment information and charged $20 a month after a week long trial, to eventually find out it's a default included option on any Samsung phone and can be found in some settings. Google search has completely gone to shit.

If you're still looking for a solution, I highly recommend "scrcpy" https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Get docker redis images cheap! at....

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago

Oh it’s absolute garbage. It’s virtually impossible to look up anything and get an answer related to your question.

[-] theKalash@feddit.ch 6 points 9 months ago

This search should obviously return the official Docker Hub Redis image

It's the 5th result for me.

Don't really see the "gore" ... those are all relevant results.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago

The “gore” is “Google bad.” Not really much else to it.

[-] vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I had moved to DDG a few years ago and enjoyed it until around the middle of this year when I started getting less and less relevant results.

Started using (and yes, paying for) Kagi 3 or so months ago and it's amazing going back to searches that actually work again. I don't know how well I'd handle moving back to an ad supported search provider.

[-] spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

!docker redis DDG bangs are the way.

[-] ares35@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

don't need to bang that one out. docker redis image hit the mark, top result.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Just for fun let's compare the search results of docker redis image:

  • Google results - A, B, C, D*, E
  • DDG results - E, A, B, F*, G*
  • Bing results - A, E, B, C, G* (Bing throws up a bunch of Cards, which i ignored for these comparisons)

So more or less the same high quality results in the top 5 results across the engines, with a little reordering going on.

the* means blog spam.

  • A - docker.com
  • B - Redis.io
  • C - github docker-library
  • D* - Kinsta.com
  • E - hub.docker.com
  • F* - How to geek
  • G* - phoenixnap
[-] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

$ docker search --filter is-official=true redis

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

.....did you even bother clicking the Images tab before creating this post?

[-] clubb@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

He shouldn't have to though

[-] S410@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

I know, right? Google Search has been particularly sheet for the last couple of years.
It's, honestly, mind boggling just how bad things got with it.

The only stuff it's still usually better at finding, compared to other search engines, is super obscure stuff on super obscure sites. Which makes sense, I suppose: hardly anyone has fingers as grabby and far reaching as Google.

[-] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

I was searching for a scripting language to embed into an application, then I got popular programming language comparisons, most of which hailed the functional programming paradigm, which is very bad for games.

[-] No_Support_8363@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago

That's why I made my default Chrome search engine duckduckgo

gafam bad (apple is less bad)

[-] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago

Are you high? This is nearly perfect.

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