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[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 52 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] Embargo@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Greatest country in the world apparently.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago

This show is feeling relevant every single day now.

https://youtu.be/fJh9t9h6Wn0

[–] M137@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago

It's the bully who constantly has to tell everyone how great they are and acts like an asshole tworads everyone while they're actually very mentally broken, scared, dumb etc.

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And they say that American exceptionalism is a myth

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[–] voidsignal@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Number one!

But I think the only and actual problem is education. The rest are just consequence. It's not for nothing than when the rest of the world thinks about an american, they see a fat dumbass bigot idiot. I know a lot of people are not like that, but it does not matter. As a country, this is how everybody sees you.

And for once, fix the root cause of the problem, not the symptoms.

[–] madejackson@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'd argue even with education, your defacto two party system still prevents true change/progress. Not sure if better education would be enough to change this.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The two party system worked for a long time because both sides were committed to the idea that a functional government was a good thing.

A multiple party system didn't save Germany from Fascists. When enough citizens decide their fellow citizens are the problem decent government becomes impossible.

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[–] voidsignal@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

well, at least people will be able to conceptualize this is a completely stupid system.

Right now they have the sport-fan mentality. Us vs Them, Me vs You, Good vs Bad. Baby view of the world.

(and it's not my de-facto :) )

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[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think the education is a symptom of a deeper problem still, and that is corporate entities owning significant parts of the governing process, through lobbying, campaign financing and a rotating door of government positions and coproate advisers.

They want an uneducated population, because that is how they get a greater and greater share of the say in what the government does each election cycle. Getting Citizens United through was one of the worst they accomplished in recent years, but it won’t end there.

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[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 33 points 1 month ago (12 children)

I can't fathom how anyone is against free healthcare. CHILDREN have to go without healthcare FFS CHILDREN. How can anyone justify that?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 month ago

I don't have kids so why should I pay for their healthcare

That's how they justify it. They're fucking ghouls

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Even within free market logic free healthcare just makes sense. It enables people to more comfortably quit their job to start a business or take any better job. It also allows people more freedom to choose medical professionals based on their merits rather than on who their insurer says they can use.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's also cheaper for everyone, and results in much better outcomes on average. It's truly win/win/win.

The only losers would be the insurance companies that would no longer exist. And fuck them.

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[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The problem is there's a false scarcity. Healthcare is expensive for people in the US right now, so the idea of paying for someone else's healthcare via universal healthcare doesn't sound like a good thing, it sounds like taking the money you need for your healthcare to pay for someone else's.

It's NOT like that, but people have it in their heads that it is. And it's very hard to change a made up mind when there are people rallying against it to protect their own private interests.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's no reason to not have universal healthcare.

Sure, some people think as you describe, but they are the minority. We're supposed to be a representative democracy.

  • 90% of Democrats want universal healthcare. (30% of voters)
  • 70% of Independents want universal healthcare. (40% of voters)
  • Even 40% of Republicans want universal healthcare. (30% of voters)

(many polls, pick your favorite)

bOtH pArTiEs think otherwise, unfortunately

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[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Honestly FOX News might be the organization, which helped the term "socialism" the most in the US. When you call every good policy "socialist" then people wanting that will call themself that.

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[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (13 children)

Yes, but the first one is not true.

Tired of calling what countries like Australia and Germany have as "universal healthcare".

It isn't. Simply isn't.

In the case of Australia most familiar with. It's a weird mix of public and private, with most medical costs covered under a private subsidy model, where your health service can change whatever, and you have to pay the gap between the Medicare rebate and what the services charges.

Doesn't cover dental, has a small rebate for physio and other allied health (again, private providers, public rebate) and covers a basic check up for eyes every 3 years only, but doesn't cover most optical.

The hospital system is also and absolute mess of a two-tiered system I won't get into here.

It's not fucking universal and I'm sick of people pretending like it is. It's just kilometres better than the USA, which is the lowest bar ever.

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[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (34 children)

Europe doesn't have socialism. This list is not even close to good. Europe is like, behind what I want. I want socialism. I want to nationalize big tech. Europe wants no part in nationalizing their tech. I don't want mandatory PTO, I want a union and representation and a funded pension. I want publicly ran and funded groceries and hospitals, not just universal health insurance. I'm a former libertarian and I want these things btw. It's not hard to convince a libertarian to be socialist. Europe is too capitalist for me.

Also 'developed' and 'non-developed' is modern colonial language. The original post reeks of liberalism. Not against you OP, I just hate looking to Europe for the future of America. America has fundamental issues that make it not really suited for european capitalism, but if the DSA has their way in the next decade or two we might have some good socialism in the US.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The modern use of the word Socialism means having significant publicly funded institutions. When people say they want socialism they mean they want more of it, because most likely they already have lots of publicly funded institutions - like police and fire protection, public libraries, unemployment compensation.... What they want is more, and Europe has more than the US.

Developed and non-developed are economics terms for different degrees of industrialization and overall wealth. they're not "colonial" language.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'd watch US shows where sometimes people would get fired on the spot in in a dramatic way and thought it was just artistic license until I realized Americans literally have no protections and can be fired at will for no reason at all. It is horrifying. What's even worse is that people celebrate this as a "fluid labor market" , as if placing people under chronic insecurity is a virtue.

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[–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 12 points 1 month ago (9 children)

And americans will tell you it's because they are better or different.

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Gotta fund the military somehow, mirite?

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Hungary also did that under OrbΓ‘n, but we were told once we will have enough "national billionaires", the money will start to trickle down. When the billionaires arrived and we asked when the money will finally trickle down, we were told money is not everything, and we're acting like "spoiled children".

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You want society to treat you like you belong to it?! You stupid fucks.

"Anyone who doesn't have to suffer is a slight against me because I had to suffer at some point!" Fucking assholes.

Guess what? I inherited money. It didn't make me stop advocating to help people or tax those with the most. These fuckers are inhuman.

But, honestly, we have to stop the socialist threat that will destroy our country because they want to feed people and that's UNAMERIKAN!

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The tax system and healthcare system are genuinely fucked in the US. Both could be simplified greatly and benefit people, but those in the small handful of decision making power to do benefit from keeping it complex. The IRS is spineless, and private health insurance is disgusting.

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[–] Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

The corrupt gop fuckers will recreate the commie folk devil that worked during the cold war, they will claim communism will end America they will turn voting for social democracy into national crisis

They are always lying

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 8 points 1 month ago

They sell it to a third of the population, and those people rabidly vote for corporate USA every year.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm convinced the reason is "We can't do that, black people would get it. White people have the good jobs and will get that all on their own."

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[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

America is full of uneducated monsters who are too dumb to have a functional democracy

[–] rmrf@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

It's more that they're diseducated IMO. To me, throwing vitriol at people because a decades-long campaign from the most powerful people on earth succeeded feels so similar to blaming the enslaved for not freeing themselves.

It's really frustrating and it blows to see so many people harming themselves out of hate, fear, and illiteracy, but how are they to know better? All they see elsewhere is hate against them for something they've been trained to identify with; no human responds to that.

I'm not trying to come off as offensive to insulting. I think the above is worth considering and might be productive :)

ETA: I want to respond to a lot of these replies but I'm at work so it'll be a bit. Lots of good conversation to be had :)

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[–] mydude@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's because you have the most capitalist country, so you are number 1 in exploitation. Congratulations πŸ‘πŸŽ‰

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[–] fizzle@quokk.au 7 points 1 month ago

Ah yes but the US has the "freedom" to not have all of those things.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

Good, America sucks.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does all this winning start to hurt eventually?

[–] username123@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah but we have mythical Freedom! and the whole world except us is mythically oppressed by socialist tyranny!

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 5 points 1 month ago (6 children)

It's interesting that Japan is below the US in the main rankings. I feel more free here in almost every regard than I did as an adult in the US.

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[–] decapitae@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

THIS is how CEO's make thier money, it's how the rich 1% stay rich - by exploiting people who let them exploit them based on outmoded tropes from the rich people of the last generation, who exploited people who had very little choice when it came to 'money' Incarcerate the rich who own companies that don't pay living wages

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

OK, so how many of those developed countries do we have to invade to pump our numbers up?

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call the US developed. There is development, with the sky scrapers, mega companies and billionaires, but there are also palaces built in South Africa, North Korea and Turkmenistan. North Korea and Turkmenistan have better infrastructure than the US. But I wouldn't call insane poverty rates, insane inequality, autocracy, oligarchy, insane incarceration rates, corrupt government and legal system, institutionalized racism and still legal slavery any form of modern development.

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[–] c64z86@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

America may be behind but sadly quite a few countries seem to keen on racing it right to the bottom. Nobody seems to learn from all the mistakes it is making.

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