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Hey all you beautiful selfhosters,

What are your suggestions for frugally obtaining HDDs in the current economic climate? Specifically the EU (Netherlands).

I'm looking at second hand drives, but even those go for โ‚ฌ100+ now, with bad sectors and all.

Can we organise a collective AI datacenter robbery and doll out some stolen drives? ๐Ÿ˜

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[โ€“] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I've got a 12tb sitting with a dead control board. looking for parts to fix it with tbh.

I'm sure there are folks selling drives like that online.

[โ€“] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

Frugally (legally) obtained HDDs are still going to cost you a lot of money, there is no way around that at the moment. If you need it, pay up and be done with it. If you just kind of want it, start sorting through your piles of data you don't actually need (yes, you have that, stop lying to yourself) to free up space for things you do actually need.

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[โ€“] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 22 points 5 days ago (18 children)

Everyone asks "where do we get more storage?" and not "do we need to hoard all of this?"

[โ€“] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 67 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] remon@ani.social 38 points 5 days ago

Because the answer to the second question is a very clear "yes".

[โ€“] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Yes. If I want to organize and dedupe what I have then I need enough storage to work on it, a lot of my storage is spinning rust 7-15 years old, and if I have the space I'm going to use it. I have family photos and a music library going back to 2005. Too many things like old games need custom fixes installed to work correctly on modern hardware, and the internet isn't as permanent as it was cracked up to be.

There's plenty of reasons to hold on to older data.

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[โ€“] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

With how the internet is going, I don't think we will be able to get content from it in 5 to 10 years. It will be completely locked down, so all we have on our drives will be it. Back to mailing DVDs!

[โ€“] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Usenet will likely still be around, and torrents are like playing whack-a-mole.

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[โ€“] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I think a big fuel for these storage anxieties is the very real situation we're in right now, where we're watching the "forever Internet" erode and crumble before our eyes, and getting rug-pulled from every direction service-wise, and losing access to media we don't have a hard copy of.

I do wish there were a better way to pool all this storage for a common library of preservation...I mean I guess Internet Archive is like that but they're constantly under attack. All this is under heaps of legal "gray area" and obviously the media titans want to force a rental-only-own-nothing world.

Right now we kinda have to become a scattered group of amateur historians and librarians, to preserve our culture.

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[โ€“] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[โ€“] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 points 5 days ago

We wouldn't be here if we hadn't already answered the second question affirmatively.

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[โ€“] utjebe@reddthat.com 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[โ€“] remon@ani.social 1 points 2 days ago

Oh well ... they're not getting cheaper.

[โ€“] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It looks like good prices. But every single one is out of stock

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[โ€“] Smurfi@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago

Amazing! Thanks

[โ€“] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

Marty, we need to go back...to the future!

https://ebay.io/m/85Z5UG

(Mind you, those top out at 320GB per cartridge)

Kidding aside, for deep storage...?

LTO-8 is 12TB native per cartridge. A used LTO can be as little as $300 USD with a 12TB cart $65ish. Ancient LTO-3 can be had for like...$5....and stores upto 800GB per tape.

So...if it's deep storage you want....that's one insane option.

OTOH if you're looking for a Jellyfin streamer...they're tape, so random access would suck bad. You'd genuinely be better off optical media at that point lol

Though if we're time travelling... DVD shufflers (400+ DVDs) were a thing for a minute. You'd have to write bridge software because they're HDMI and com port only...hmm. Checking quickly, they seem to go for $100 USD....is this even possible....? You'd be limited to 1 stream at a time, but I can see a way to share that across multiple TVs with HDMI splitter...hmm...how do I carry RF remote signal from each room back to main unit...oh, I don't need to, could I make a web ui that controls the shuffler via a Pi to RS-232, that you access on your phone?...Shit...i could do this.

$300...I could do this. I could make a clock work Jellyfin server...

No, stop. This is a dangerous rabbit hole.

PS: shit - I just thought of two better options - and one of them is even semi sane (store video at 480-540p on DVD as mkv, use Nvidia shield to upscale on fly to 1080p). Back of envelope maths suggests this would be around 3000 movies.

I should not be online this late at night with easy access to credit card.

[โ€“] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Ebay, particularly GoHardDrives, or sometimes you'll find new drives from random sellers.

I also check ServerPartDeals. Drives are pricy these days, don't sneeze near your NAS.

Edit: I'm not sure if they ship internationally or not, however.

[โ€“] uncooked24@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

2/3 of the drives I received from GoHardDrive failed within 2 years and all I got was a pre-bubble refund.

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In my country we have a website that resells "old" and used server hardware, including HDDs for reasonable prices. Although that has gone up a lot over the last year or so.

Maybe you have something like that in the Netherlands? I recently bought an 18TB drive for around โ‚ฌ400.

Storage is just expensive these days. Just like RAM.

[โ€“] mrnngglry@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, Iโ€™ve been taking a chance on eBay. If the price is close to $10/TB and the drive is an enterprise drive that is listed as known to be working, with a good return policy, I take the risk. I just run tests as soon as I have it so far, all have been good (eight purchases).

[โ€“] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 3 points 5 days ago

Same. I use these drives in a mirrored setup or to hold data that's replaceable. If they make it a few months without showing errors they might get entrusted to something more important. I'll shell out for a new drive for my constantly in use drives, luckily I read the warning signs and bought a few 20tb HDDs when ram and SSDs started skyrocketing. I'm kicking myself for not grabbing a few backup m.2 nvme and 2.5" SSDs, because I'm already doing the hardrive shuffle in my mini PCs. I'm fine living life with networked rusty spinners, but I really really don't want to go back to spinny boot/high throughput drives.

[โ€“] notagoblin@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Frugal and recycled. Using a mix of old disks in OMV8 with a mergerfs array, suprisingly they amounted to 20TB, so saved a few bob.

If a disk fails in Mergerfs you loose the data on that disk only and not the array as you would with a pure jbod array.

There is a remove disk utility in the OMV8 mergerfs plugin that allows the data from a failing disk to be copied back to the array, if enough space is available, retaining the data from the failing disk. The disk can then be physically removed. If the array is short on space, add a disk to expand the array before removing the failing disk.

I've only ever used it with a failing disk, not a failed disk, I would guess that a backup would be required in that case.

The same applies to mergerfs outside of OMV8, this was easier for me.

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[โ€“] Joelk111@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

My work sells commercial tier drives that were used by customers in NVRs for $10/TB. It's honestly a great perk of the job for a data hoarder like myself with a fully redundant 100TB of stuff (aka 200TB of drives). I also got a dope 16 bay server chassis with slides and a few other components from them. I fully intend to drop like 2 grand on HDDs if/when I move to a new company.

[โ€“] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I usually scavenge old drives from work. On one hand they're a bit smaller than I'd like them to be, but on the other hand they're free except from the minor work and documentation involved in ensuring that no company related data remain.

[โ€“] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Wish my company allowed that. Everything goes to a licensed secure destruction service that literally puts them through an industrial shredder. Awesome to watch, but wasteful as all hell.

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[โ€“] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What size are you looking for? I paid ~150โ‚ฌ for 12tb refurbished and ~200 for 8tb new. Don't think you could get a high capacity drive for 100 even before the crisis

[โ€“] Smurfi@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Ideally 2 or 3 10Tb drives but I would even be happy with 4Tb for now

[โ€“] qaz@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Smurfi@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I have it opening every morning to see if there are any new ads

[โ€“] TheMightyCat@ani.social 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Do you happen to live in zuid holland?

I have 2 unopened Seagate IronWolf ST4000VN006 that I'll be happy selling.

No idea what a fair price or your budget would be. That is if you are interested in these drives to begin with.

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