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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 3 hours ago

Between this and the decoy nests what the fuck did Japan do to piss crows off so bad

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Info from the original source, which I think was this facebook post:

In Japan, large solar power farms face an unusual challenge from crows, highly intelligent birds that have taken to dropping stones and other debris onto the photovoltaic panels.
Although the impacts rarely shatter the glass immediately, the accumulated objects create hotspots by blocking airflow and sunlight, leading to gradual overheating, reduced efficiency, and potential long-term damage to the expensive infrastructure critical for renewable energy production.
Experts speculate that this behavior might stem from curiosity, playfulness, or crows treating the shiny, flat surfaces as novel platforms for their habitual object-dropping antics—similar to how they crack nuts by dropping them from heights onto roads.
Conventional deterrents like netting, reflective tapes, or noise devices often prove ineffective against such adaptable and persistent corvids.
The most reliable solution has proven to be falconry: professional falconers deploy trained raptors, typically hawks or falcons, to patrol the sites.
The mere presence and aerial pursuits of these natural predators trigger an instinctive fear response in crows, prompting them to vacate the area entirely rather than risk confrontation.
Remarkably, a single well-trained falcon can conduct around 60 rapid attack sorties daily, establishing dominance over a vast territory and safeguarding up to 100,000 solar panels from further interference.
This eco-friendly, non-lethal method revives traditional falconry practices to protect modern green technology, balancing wildlife behavior with sustainable energy needs.

[–] PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I feel like we’re brushing past the salient point here - why are the crows doing this?!

[–] notabot@piefed.social 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

At a guess, because crows are smart, resourceful little chaos goblins, with basically no fear, especially in groups. Maybe they like the noise the breaking glass makes, or maybe they're just curious to see what will happen. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that they've made a game of it, to see which of them can hit nearest the centre, or from highest up. I'm actually surprised that a single falcon manages to scare them off, after seeing what they do to buzzards round here. Even if the buzzard is minding it's own business, multiple crows will attack it in flight, dive it bombing and harrying it until it has left the area.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 23 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Is it possible the light bounces off the panels in a way that annoys them too?

[–] Mountainaire@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago

All of the above!

[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They also like shiny things so it wouldn't surprise me if it's just due to that.

[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Just like my ex husband

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 8 points 22 hours ago

They're farming the raid boss

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 21 hours ago
[–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are big oil drones, birds are not real.

Crows are based.

[–] gerald_eliasweb@reddthat.com 0 points 8 hours ago

Nature is self-sabotaging it would appear

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

This headline and xitt smelled to me. Searching in Japanese, I find one instance of it being used at a installation. https://project.nikkeibp.co.jp/ms/atcl/feature/15/389489/041000017/?ST=msb&P=5 I'm not immediately seeing anything else similar.

Edit: clarity.

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, I’m wondering about the truthfulness of this story also. Here in Southern California we have solar arrays and crows. They seem to coexist quite peacefully,

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

"there was a high possibility of actual damage occurring, such as the cover glass being broken by falling rocks or the panel surface being soiled with droppings" from the Japanese article via google translate.

Our crows here are larger than the US ("grackles" in Texas may be close, but I think they're still smaller), but I still wonder if they could drop rocks heavy enough (or repeatedly enough) to do anything.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I would also be amazed if a crow could lift a big enough rock to damage a panel. I have a pile of panels in use; they're pretty damn tough to break that glass. Only time I've seen one broken was the wind tore it off it's mount and smashed it into the top of a fence post. I measure the production afterwards and it was still 90% despite the glass being crazed across the entire surface.

[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 8 points 19 hours ago

Shouldnt the crows be happy about green energy? I think they are ungreatful.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Deciding which side to support between the anti corporate anti technology crows or the bad ass green energy supportimg hawks:

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The crows are smarter and it worries me they know better

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago

Gestapo. They were a predator before, too.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Aviation term for an air attack. Out, hit, back.

I think it's also general military. A squad can sortie out to accomplish an objective.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

From the French sortir, "to go out".

So yeah, the "out" and "back" parts are important: if a unit is attaching while maneuvering in the field, it's not a "sortie". That's also why it's common in aviation, since airplanes inherently require a home runway that every attack begins and (ideally) ends at.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

Jesus, I know French but i didn't connect the term to the language! 🤣

[–] Xandi@feddit.org 2 points 18 hours ago

Had crows at my parents place pecking the windows. So them attacking glass surfaces definitely tracks.

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Korval@lemmy.today 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Based on the abstract of a research paper I found (the only source I found not interested in exaggerating things for clicks or commenting on mundane problems like nests and poop), crows know that dropping rocks is fun. The researchers (again, according to the abstract--the meat is behind a paywall, as usual) speak as if crows are always dropping rocks; the implication being that the presence of the solar panels is happenstance. Their research merely correlates cracks in the panels, and pebbles on the panels, with crows flying overhead. In the paragraph they don't even directly blame the cracked panels on the rocks, let alone the crows. They simply state the chain of events as a possibility.

On the other hand, I've heard lots of fun facts about birds over the years and the underlying theme is that birds are bastardly and some, like crows, are intelligent. What human kid doesn't enjoy throwing rocks or shooting bullets at glass? I don't find it hard to believe that crows might similar mayhem enjoyable.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Ok but who will protect the batteries from the falcons?

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 5 points 20 hours ago

Yada yada yada... I just installed our second set of cobras under the couch. They eat the mice. The mice are for feeding the security bears, but they tend to run into the house. The mice, not the bears. The bears protect the house from the road lions who prevent cars from parking in front of the house. That's where we have our electric car chargers fed from the solar panels. Yeah, we got the eagle to chase the falcon who chases the crows. The crows are there to prevent pidgeons so I can enjoy my fries in pace. My dog doesn't bark at all. Cone to think of it, I haven't seen that rascal in a few weeks. I wonder what he's doing.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So, that's 2.5 sorties an hour, 24 hours a day. I don't know how much falcon need to sleep, but that feels unsustainable.

[–] TheGoldenV@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Now I’m wondering. How large of an area one bird could cover. How many falcons does one professional falconer have? Do they take constant upkeep training like a dog or do they retain better? Does a falcon eat much? Can they eat people food? Like two mice a day with some fish would probably be ok. Maybe let it eat some of the crows to keep costs down?

So like 2-6 falcons, they can sleep in the van, let them eat the crows they nail. The birds are only flying from dawn to dusk, so 7 days a week for maybe 10 hours on average?

Screw it, I’m buying a falcon.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 4 points 23 hours ago

I'm not convinced a crow can crack a solar panel, they are very tough. People walk on them, and they survive hail.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Big shiny burn eyes. Rock make shiny sparkle. Hurt bird protect big shiny.

[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago

Cracking them would increase their sparkle...