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If I bothered to look at other specs like pcie lanes, usb versions, repairability, noise, I bet my arse I'd be disappointed.
You could save 35$ tho /s
Yeah, but this way you also have the inconvenience of having to build it and install the OS yourself.
Welcome to the world of pre-built PCs! Like, technically you can upgrade your GPU but you‘d have to upgrade most of your machine too to actually get a performance boost.
Does it also come with HDMI CEC?
Does it come with good basically lifetime support?
Would it get developers optimise for that exact hardware?
Would it run as quit and efficient?
I'd you just going for raw hardware speed. And don't care about anything else. You can always make a faster system yourself.
But I know enough people who don't dare to touch anything near a computer, who are looking into this cube
The tear-down GamersNexus did of the Steam cube showed that a lot of very good engineering has gone into designing it so that not only does it run smoothly and without overheating despite its compact shape, it is also relatively easy to access all components and repairability is high.
Just a shame they had to settle for subpar components on account of the AI cartel.
Good support and Valve? Like, I get people rushing in to defend GabeN here. Especially considering the Summer Sale is currently ongoing. But their support is shit. From my experience you either like what they give you or you get your money back. Little to nothing in between. Gaming Jesus doesn‘t really do compromises so can we at least stop pretending Steam Support is an actual functional instance? It definitely was‘t for me so far and neither do I expect it to be at this point.
From your own experience, in your own words, you said they either solve your problem or they solve it a different way. How is that shit support?
I have so far had 4 advance replacement (get new hardware, ship old hardware back later) for free. Even outside warranty period. And this story is the same for all my friends as far as I know off.
So I guess we both had quite some different experiences
The steam machine is within the margins of prebuilt costs. Its a bad deal because building a PC right now is just a bad deal. Matching the form factor is the biggest cost destroyer. If you want a small efficient gaming PC you dont get much better than the steam machine but if you've got enough space for a big 9060 XT then you arent competing vs the steam machine. Granted this is amazing advertising and got to hand it to them. But steam machine isnt 1039 euro is it wouldnt it be more like 900 euro.
I'm aware that you can build and even buy a better machine for cheaper. This has always been the case, even now to a degree. Probably why I'm on my third self-built system, but I digress.
That said, if you already have an Xbox or Playstation, then the Steam Machine works right out of the box. You plug it in to your TV and you have a controller.
Compared to this where you will need, at least, a mouse and keyboard. Then potentially monitors and speakers or a headset, whatever you want to do.
I'm still trying to convince my console-only friends to get a Steam Machine because, to me at least, it is the simplest way to get them to play PC games with me which has been my goal forever.
and they will support it for the lifetime of the machine, i assume?
What kind of support do you want?
For instance my 11 year old Steam Link box, discontinued in 2018, got a firmware update 17 hours ago by Valve.
That kind of support.
It's fucking Linux, which still supports CPUs that are more than 20 years old. You don't need to rely on any company to provide you "support".
Given Valve have been the ones keeping older AMD GPUs working and up to date on Linux, pushing upstream etc, I’d argue we kind of do rely on a company to provide support.
I’d rather spend my money on something I have stronger confidence will have developers maintaining and committing patches etc for all the components in the box than a box of components I can’t be sure will all have the same level of support across all its components into the years to come.
Take x86-64-v1/v2 (and even v3 in some cases) CPUs for example. They’re “supported” on Linux but many distros’ packages don’t support it, meaning you’re often compiling from source to get a package functioning. Sure the kernel isn’t the issue but the rest of userspace is.
With Valve seemingly having no intention of ending maintenance support for their hardware even after end of sale, and their huge contributions to Arch and other parts of the Linux ecosystem, it’s nice to have an option to buy a complete system that will be maintained, and remain a target/reference platform for their distro (which means binaries will be around should I want to distro hop).
Just noting in case anyone is wondering. A Valve engineer is keeping the Radeon HD 7000 series useable with the latest amdgpu driver. It's from 2012.
And the last driver shipped by AMD for Linux for those cards was in 2015…
Have you even looked at the linked patchnotes? I don't think that "Added support for GameCube controller rumble when the adapter is in PC mode" is something linus torvalds fixed personally in the linux kernel lmao.
And, for the sake of the argument, let's say all of those improvements are upstream linux kernel improvements. Then valve still has to pull them, build a new build and push it, something that no major company can be assed to do. And that effort is still commendable.
Cool, that looks like a beefy system for that price, glad to see options, but:
Looks like a good build considering current pricing, but realistically it's missing a bunch of the core features of the Steam Machine that seems to fly over people's heads
Tech people love to forget the average level of tech literacy in the world.
Every time Nintendo and Switch comes up on Lemmy you see the flood of haters who cant wrap their heads around the idea that parents will pay extra for their kids shit to "just work" and overpay for AAA Nintendo titles that are complete and have no microtransactions.
The steam machine is for people who remember pc gaming fondly but cant be bothered building a rig or dealing with specs on prebuilts.
Excellent option
