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As someone who meticulously organises media... this was not a problem for either Plex or Jellyfin.

The one thing that gets both of them fucked up for some reason is Ghost Stories, even with the TVDB tag, which should make it a non-issue. Still, it's easy to fix, on both platforms.

My media looks like this:

Movies: [decade][Title as it appears on TVDB] ([Year]) ([Special things like Directors Cut or whatever]) ([Resolution]).mkv

Shows (including anime): [Show Title][Show Title] S[season]E[episode] [Episode title].mkv

Music: [Artist]([Year]) [Album title][Track Number] [Track title].m4a

Oh, another issue you will run into, with shows, is "fan ordering." A good one for this is Sword Art Online. Some very vocal fans hate that there's a fourth season. They don't actually hate the content of the fourth season, they just think it should be combined with the third season for whatever dumb ass reason people on the Internet get incensed about stupid shit. They tried to plead their case on the TVDB forums and got shot down. So if you go by their order, the latter half of the episodes won't be named and won't have descriptions. Then, whenever the fifth season comes out, if you try to call it the fourth season, it'll get the titles and descriptions of the actual fourth season that's out now. So you can't do that.

If you're having issues with TV shows, get an app called Rename My TV Series. It's on Windows, it's on Mac, and it's on Linux. And it's free. Or you could pirate FileBot, I guess. Or pay for it. I'm not your dad. But I'll use free software over warez any day, as long as it does what I need. Why pirate when the free version does just as good? Just like Plex and Jellyfin, RMTVS uses TVDB, so you know your filenames will comply with your media server. And, if you're on Plex (not sure about Jellyfin on this specific one), you can rename the seasons, so you could call Season 4 "Season 3, Part II" and everything will still work. However, I named my SAO seasons "Sword Art Online," "Sword Art Online II", "Sword Art Online: Alicization," and "Sword Art Online: Alicization: War of Underworld." It looks really cool, since that anime doesn't use seasons, each season actually has a slightly different name for the show. (It's probably, if we're being that nit picky, several shows in one franchise, but that's not how TVDB wants it, and Plex won't let you do it that way, either.)

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

I used to have VLC as my media server (easier to setup than Plex or Jellyfin)

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I have gotten pretty good at understanding what jellyfin wants from me. usually just english movie title (release year), and for tv series series title (release year) / season 1 / s1e1, s1e2, etc. be sure to check thetvdb ordering.

some shows have multiple orders, and jellyfin seems to randomly decide one fits better than another. had that recently with pokemon, which doesn't have a fully mapped tvdb order at all. still managed to finagle it somehow, and now I've got literally 1337 episodes (not everything but also not nothing. I'm happy with it) sorted.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 14 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

50 upvotes and yet half the comments here are "it worked for me OP must be using it wrong" and the other half are "Using Plex is worse than bombing Palestinian children "

[–] remon@ani.social 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] oneser@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 12 hours ago

Oh you think bombing Palestinian children is wrong? Antisemite.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 7 points 12 hours ago

Eh, it's a meme. If people interacted hopefully it gave them a chuckle if nothing else

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Yo, stop fucking using Plex and switch to Jellyfin. I switched over months ago, and it just works.

Plex became the enemy when they forced their users into a subscription model. Support bullshit-free open-source software instead.

[–] GraveyardOrbit@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

My grandparents cannot access jellyfin via vpn and it’s not safe to expose it to the web because the devs don’t take security seriously

[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I put mine behind a reverse proxy, like any sane person would. Configure an original sni and you are basically invisible. (Tls1.3, doh/dot make it even better, depending on your threat model, but most likely overkill)

[–] oneser@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

While you are (probably?) correct, this is significantly beyond what is required to deploy Plex for a standard home server chump like me.

I'm using jellyfin and a few others, but am consciously putting off exposing these services to the web until I can learn enough about security to do so. Given life, this will probably take me the better part of a year...

[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 12 minutes ago

you are right to be careful here. But it certainly is also not a "requirement to deploy jellyfin" either. It's just a good practice to minimize attack surface, no matter what you expose. Unless it's meant for the general public and advertised, then this makes little sense :-)

Also, most selfhosters have at best one IP to use. This helps with the one-IP-multiple-webservices problem anyway.

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago

I use tailscale when I'm in these situations. It even works behind the most cursed CGNAT like starlink where it's impossible to even port forward.

As long as your tunnel is running you just use the private IP address for your jellyfin machine and your parents will access it like it's local.

[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 6 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

cool thing is Jellyfin is free and you can switch right now

[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 hours ago

if you have android TV clients, give Wholfin a go, it's a FOSS jellyfin client that looks and behaves like the Plex client, it's fantastic and makes transitioning users over so much easier.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

It's not better at this.

You will also not find as good of a support of Jellyfin by many devices like Smart TVs, game consoles, etc. Also, it just doesn't work as reliably in many ways, like identifying media, transcoding it and sorting it correctly. It is an y alternative to Plex in the same way that Gimp is an alternative to Photoshop: Superior in terms of licensing, but not as an actual piece of software.

[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 1 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

well since that "superior" piece of software isn't working, I guess I'll just keep my inferior software that actually does 🥱

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 13 hours ago

Most of it comes down to the user. You need to be precise about naming and sorting media with all of these media libraries. With non-standard media - like fan edits, combined episodes and the likes - my usual shortcut is to place it in bonus feature of regular media.

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[–] Sivilian@lemmy.zip 33 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] gdbjr@piefed.social 11 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Instead of memes maybe post the issue you are having so we can help? Plex is usually pretty great at importing media if you name it correctly.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 22 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Oh. Thanks, I wasn't actually wanting help today. I just wanted to post memes to blow off some steam

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[–] Stormcrow@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 12 hours ago
[–] weilii@lemmy.lacasabien.space 14 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

Have you heard of our load and savior "Automatically renaming and organizing with sonarr and using symlinks to preserve the naming of the torrent downloads so you can seed without using twice as much storage"?

Sonarr makes a symlink from the torrent download folder to a new folder where it renames and reorganizes the file, but the pointer for that file and the file in the downloads folder point to the same file on your hdd so.you have two copies with different names but only one "file". Now you have a perfectly organized media folder to feed into Plex while all of those files also live in your completed downloads folder with the original naming conventions. And it's all automagic.

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The one main thing that has stopped me from setting up Sonarr is that I want my media server and torrent server to be on two different machines. Can Sonarr handle symlinks or whatever over the network or something?

Currently, I manually add torrents to Qbittorrent on Server A, which downloads the file to the hard drive on Server A. When downloading has completed, I use SFTP to transfer the files to a much larger hard drive pool in Server B, which runs Jellyfin. Then I may use SSH to rename the files to something Jellyfin-friendly, if necessary. I end up with two copies of the files this way, but most likely eventually end up deleting the files from Server A when I need to free up space and decide to no longer seed them.

When I tried to have one server running both programs, having a lot of activity in Qbittorrent made Jellyfin move sluggishly. Running them on different servers like this allows them to not bottleneck each other at all, and they can run at full speed at all times. I could see myself using Sonarr if I can still keep those two main programs segregated to separate machines.

[–] lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes. Just to add, not everything hard links for me due to files being seeded (and locked) straight after it's done downloading, so later I go back and fix the bulk by entering the download folder and typing:

  • To list files that weren't hard linked:
find . -links 1 -type f | grep ".mp4$\|.mkv$" | sort > ../fixthese.txt

And going through the list and either reimporting manually via *arr>Wanted>Import manually, or

  • omitting certain shows from the command once you're certain all the unlinked are unwanted extras with:
find . -links 1 -type f | grep ".mp4$\|.mkv$" | grep -vE "./(Band.Of.Brothers|The Boys|Westworld|.*\] (Attack On Titan|JoJo)|.*ample.mkv$)" | sort > ../fixthese.txt

( "./(|.." covers most shows, "*] (|.." covers files starting with e.g. [Anime Time], and ".*ample.mkv$" covered my 'sample' and "Sample" videos)

[–] weilii@lemmy.lacasabien.space 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Did you set the paths for your mounted folders in the docker appropriately? If you have the download folder and the media library mounted as distinct shares in the docker template it can break the links. I had to put the download and media library folders in the same mounted directory to make my links work.

I had /mnt/user/media/tv mounted to /tv And /mnt/user/media/downloads mounted to /downloads and had to change to so I just had /Mnt/user/media mounted to /media, with the download and media library folders both existing as subdirectories inside of /media to make them link properly. There is a faq on the sonarr reddit about this exact issue and it's a common failure point.

[–] lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

Ah, thank you, but I run it as a service. Sonarr currently has /media/disk2/New for downloads and media/disk2/Shows for main shows.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Rename things. Plex is very good at detecting stuff. The extra information in torrent filenames messes with it.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago

Yep. That's how I spent my afternoon

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

My entire library is pirated, never had any issues apart from when ab fab was named as some Arabic horse show

[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 hours ago

I did have one of my mums shows get matched as some kind of giant tits hentai thing once. We both thought that was funny. and occasionally there’s multiple shows with the same name, but they are easy to fix.

overall I’ve never had any issues, most of the people who say they have trouble arent following the naming conventions and should really be running the arrs to make it easier.

[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 10 points 19 hours ago (15 children)

What isn’t working? It’s usually pretty flawless for me as long as it’s not anime and that’s what shoko is for

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

I have zero issues. You can change the metadata of your obscure files if plex can't pull the metadata on it's own. Really no issues importing my 24 TB's of media.

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