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[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 143 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Boo hoo my shares in a company owned by a fascist and with absolutely awful revenue in comparison to it's valuation are losing value just as expected

cry me a river

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago

All of this.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago (13 children)

It's up 35% from its starting IPO pricing......

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[–] ignirtoq@feddit.online 85 points 1 month ago (1 children)

After briefly pushing SpaceX’s market value close to $3 trillion, investors have begun reassessing whether the stock’s rapid advance can be justified by fundamentals.

Nothing in the stock market has been about fundamentals for a very long time. Especially regarding Musk companies.

[–] Benaaasaaas@group.lt 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I believe Uber was the company to break the fundamentals game

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The entire fundamentals game was broken back in around 2012 when, in the aftermath of the 2008 Crash, Central bank meeting setting interest rates started pretty much dictating the direction the Stock Market took (up if they lowered interest rates, down if they did not).

It just so happens that the period when Uber rose coincided with that period of high interventionism by Central Banks which lasted quite almost a decade since their solutions for the 2008 Crash did not address the underlying causes and the recovery following that Crash was one of the slowest post-Crash recoveries ever (in fact, Interest Rates and GDP Growth are still not back to their historical trends).

It wasn't Uber who broke the Financial System's reflection of real wealth creation, it was Zero Interest Rate Policy flooding the Economy with pretty much free money and Too Big To Fail meaning that certain Financial Institutions could do every Financial Crime they felt like and never really be punished for it and take any risk they felt like because Central Bank money was always there in the background to save them if they went too far.

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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 65 points 1 month ago

So the pump dumped?

Wow. Such surprise. /s

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's a weird way of saying a stock started at $135 and is now at $181 a week later, but some people bought it when it was higher than that for a few days.

I mean seriously? I want spacx to fail super hard and musk to get completely dumped on, but this amount of volatility is completely typical when well known companies start an IPO. It sucks it's like 35% higher than the initial offering price.

[–] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Don't worry. We all get to prop up this failing stock in the next few days, when the Indexes start getting forcibly loaded up with Elmo's latest meme stock. Then the disease will just be endemic in our portfolios.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't own any ai effected tech stock, but I know my entire portfolio will go down when the ai bubble bursts. Sucks. Not sure if I'll try and sell off and buy the dip back in, or just ride it out, yet.

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[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean, is it really an IPO if it isn't insanely overpriced when initially offered?

[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I would say it's quite usual to see a big dip right from the start. It's just hamsters for whom buying Space X is their first trade don't know about that

[–] Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Initially no, they're designed to be under so that it surges after ipo, that makes it look good performance.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Well this one's designed to slip quickly into index funds and forced buying, so it makes sense to be high.

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[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Saying the average buyer is almost underwater is another way of saying that the average buyer has made a profit.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 month ago

The media does this constantly with Elon.

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[–] arin@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Gonna be funny when every rocket lauch failure tanks the stock, they should have stayed private lmfao

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

stayed private, and never merged with xAI/Twitter

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What a facade this "corporation" shit is. So the "stake holders" had literally the #1 space company in the world and agreed to merge it with two failing products in their own respective niches?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Pretty much yep. Elon has a controlling interest in SpaceX so I think that was just his outright decision, unless he had to abstain and let the investors decide? I'm not sure if he had a controlling stake in xAI.

Edit: You also left off 'overvalued' when referring to xAI/Twitter. I think SpaceX honestly could have grown into it's individual valuation pre-merger.

[–] optimisticturtle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if the opposite happened given how this gimp's companies are known for being divorced from the fundamentals.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think people might see that sometimes, but not understand why, because they just see a starship blows up headlines and don't understand what is happening as it's a test program (for now), and the headlines / stories don't convey that.

So when things explode, sometimes it's fine, and the stock might go up because a lot of really important things still were tested, some for the first time, and they went well.

Other times, things will explode and it can cause huge delays, and while they learn something, it's still 'bad' compared to the above blow ups, and the stock will very likely go down when these ones happen.

But OP is right, they brought this new chaos upon themselves by going public. They really shouldn't have done it yet.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Stock that has existed for exactly two weeks moves in any direction

"The people who bought this IPO are going to have their lives changed forever."

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh look, the completely expected and basically dependable event that happens after EVERY IPO, happened. Anyone jumping on an initial IPO is a fucking idiot. They always go under.

They might eventually still make it back to be profitable if they wait months or even years... or they could have waited a few weeks and bought the inevitable dip and never been underwater in the first place, making more profit.

[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The only IPO I ever jumped on was ARM Holdings, and that actually ended up doubling within a couple weeks. Made a tidy profit on it, then dumped it when it plateaued.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bet you wish you held it now though. Up about 7x since it first opened.

[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Man, I was having a good day, too...

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[–] vinnymac@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Notably ARM was not mainstream when it IPOd either, meaning it was a safe(r) bet at the time.

Most IPOs have become sensationalized to drive up interest, which is terrible for everyone except a select few.

[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm not sure what you mean. It already had complete dominance of the smartphone market, which was, at the time, still growing.

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[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That was the entire point of the IPO wasn't it? Funnel money to Elon and his friends and leave the rest of the (less connected) idiot investors holding the bag? Anyone who didn't own before it could sell wasn't one of the in-crowd that was supposed to be handed money. If you did buy, you weren't buying based on any business fundamentals and should have known to sell as soon as any gain could be realized which would have been hours or even minutes after buying.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Someone more knowledgeable than me please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think any of the original private investors have been capable of selling anything and I don't think they will be able to for another 30 or 60 days.

And IMO, I think Elon is thoroughly convinced that he will have another Tesla stock situation on his hand, where it generally keeps going up unreasonably for many many years.

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[–] hark@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

$185 is still way above the already ridiculous IPO price of $135. If this market made any sense, it wouldn't have gotten this high in the first place, but since we're here, it should really continue dropping. However, knowing how this market is, I wouldn't be surprised if this is just a momentary dip before going back up for some dumb made-up reason.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah, unerring faith in the magical powers of Elon continues to be a hell of a drug. Tesla does not remotely justify its current valuation either.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

This is normal for an IPO look at the history of ASTS or RKLB they very similar to SPCX and have a lot of volatility.

I’ve made a lot of money on both. But I refuse to invest in companies owned by fascist pricks who has gleefully killed people and has boasted about it.

[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago
[–] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

-digs around in depths of my heart for some sympathy-

Nope, fresh out.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Wow, who could have seen that coming?

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

lol ... psychopaths and sociopaths with a never ending thirst for profit are surprised that infinite growth no matter how much you want to believe in it can not sustain itself are surprised when their money can't magically grow any more.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 3 points 1 month ago

Great now we can write smug articles about how much Elon “lost” next week.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What do you mean by “the average buyer.” Wouldn’t all buyers currently be in the same exact position?

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Those who have the most shares (the private buyers, execs, c-suite, boardmembers, DJT n Fam) purchased well before IPO.

The "average buyer" are the retail big box store brokers who sold off those early shares to your name brand brokers so morons on WSB and Robinhood could claim to be astronaut investors.

I'm probably wrong about something so don't fact check me.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No that's pretty much it. Big institutional investors already were invested privately before. A handful of smaller institutions usually get priority at special rates unaffected by the initial fluctuations.

The big bold number that gets blasted by the media are what the everyday person has access to. And they're always the first to get fucked, as designed.

Wall Street's motto is: Privatize the profits, socialize the losses. Everything follows that.

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

This guy gets it.

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