Is Beehaw federating with Threads? (beehaw.org)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by TheBaldness@beehaw.org to c/support@beehaw.org

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I'm out of the loop. Are we federating with Threads or not?

EDIT: The answer is no, we are not federating with Threads. Thank you. That's the answer I was hoping for.

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[-] admin@beehaw.org 125 points 10 months ago

No.

[-] newtraditionalists@beehaw.org 29 points 10 months ago

Damn, i love beehaw

[-] fckgwrhqq2yxrkt@beehaw.org 27 points 10 months ago

And this is why I choose beehaw. A well defined set of ethics that are actually followed is way too rare.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 11 points 10 months ago

Not sure about ethics, but if the argument of "excessive moderation overhead" still holds true for staying defederated from Lemmy.world, the same should apply a thousandfold for Threads.

[-] alyaza@beehaw.org 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

yeah i mean this is the veto even if we wanted to do this (which we don't) and even if the community wanted it (which they clearly don't seem to--nobody's clamored for us to federate with Threads). even a tiny fraction of a fraction of threads being involved with our site would probably top the peak of workload we had when Lemmy took off. there is no current realistic circumstance in which we'd ever choose to or be able to federate with them.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

You guys are not federated with lemmy.world‽

Doesn't that exclude a LOT of content?

[-] anothermember@beehaw.org 13 points 10 months ago

It cuts out a lot of spam and low-effort posting.

[-] PaddleMaster@beehaw.org 13 points 10 months ago

I have a Beehaw account and another that federates with .world. I enjoy my Beehaw account much more, to the point I almost never use the other account. There’s just much more valuable content here.

I do miss some of the more niche Reddit subs i frequented before the purge. That’s probably the only thing really lacking. And it probably more a testament to how busy I’ve been this year. I just don’t have the time to explore other instance’s communities that Beehaw does federate with.

[-] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 10 points 10 months ago

There is a big difference between a lot of content and quality content. I appreciate Beehaw for our quality, not the quantity. There are certainly some great content on other instances, but sorting through the crap noise to find the good, just isn't worth my effort.

[+] MJBrune@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[-] anothermember@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago

You're not the first person I've heard who said that so there must be something there. That's not my experience however, I find that Reddit makes me angry these days, getting annoyed at all the low-effort, inconsiderate posting. Having a debate on Reddit is impossible I find because saying something that goes slightly against the hive-mind you'll you'll be passive-aggressively downvoted, which has a chilling effect on what people say. I like that Beehaw doesn't have downvotes, especially on local communities. On Beehaw/Lemmy someone might argue with you but that's at least better I think than the knee-jerk downvote-to-oblivion you get on Reddit.

It's true that a lot of people are more similar here than on Reddit. I'd argue that's not necessarily a bad thing. The one-size-fits-all social network for everybody approach I think doesn't work, it's more natural to choose a group you fit in to and feel comfortable with (which is how things were on old style forums and message boards). What ever happens to Lemmy/Beehaw in the future, the main thing I hope for is to have plenty of choice of smaller forums which is what's been lacking in the last decade or so.

[-] bermuda@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago

I've been experiencing more argumentation from non-beehaw users. I think they treat our communities (Politics, LGBTQ, News, etc.) as defaults and they don't realize that they're on beehaw. I've reminded people of the rules before and had responses telling me they didn't realize they had posted on beehaw.

[-] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

Unfortunately this is one of the downsides of federation. Without better mod tools for now we just ask that it report anyone who's not being nice and we'll do our best to manage it.

[-] PaddleMaster@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago

Reddit is so hostile to women that I never felt comfortable posting anything. I was a lurker. It took me 3 years to make an account, just so I could sub to places and not forget they existed. But in all my years on Reddit, I never posted. I saw how women would get roasted and never felt like part of that community. I would report many comments that were hateful towards women just for the report to come back and say “sorry, nothing wrong here”.

I went back to look up something and it just seems like a cesspool of bots. The front page is nothing but stupid questions that I’ve seen asked more than I can count, memes, screenshots of texts and AITA with the most outrageous scenarios and answers. And guess what, I still see the same hostility towards women. It’s hard to feel welcome and participate with a culture like that.

Way back in the day, Reddit was a place people would argue something to death. If you disagreed with the hive mind, you were shunned. And don’t even think about making a spelling or grammar mistake, you’d get blasted for that too. And every so often, someone would post something compelling, and Reddit would collectively hold that opinion as truth.

I left facebook in 2016, and Reddit feels a lot like facebook was when I left. And now it’s time to move away from Reddit; at least for me.

[-] gt5@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago

I was on Reddit for a very long time and a few Lemmy instances when everyone moved. While it’s not perfect, Beehaw is by far the place where I can read comments that are original, less hateful, and less pedantic. I chose Behhaw because everything else is just exhausting to me

[-] _MusicJunkie@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago

Couldn't tell you, what am I missing?

[-] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Hard to name anything specific, it's just that most of the content I see scrolling through the feed is from lemmy.world communites or users.

[-] Crankpork@beehaw.org 20 points 10 months ago

Direct and to the point.

[-] Caliper@beehaw.org 18 points 10 months ago

I love this kind of no nonsense answer. Reading the title made me worried there would be endless discussions coming, but this is refreshing.

[-] mnglw@beehaw.org 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

thank you, I'm glad you went with the short answer, leaving absolutely no room for doubt or discussion

this is good, I'm tired of the endless discussions full of goalposts being moved

[-] toothpicks@beehaw.org 12 points 10 months ago

Yay

[-] Auzy@beehaw.org 9 points 10 months ago

I assumed that would be the case. It is difficult to find a non toxic section of Facebook

[-] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago

Thank you

[-] rwhitisissle@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago

Thank you, Chris.

[-] hedge@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago

😁👍

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 9 points 10 months ago

Just out of curiosity, which Lemmy instances are federating with Threads? It's going to be an interesting thing to... observe.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

And defederate from, you mean.

[-] cole 1 points 10 months ago

I think it could have a place for some things. Not sure yet

[-] PlasticExistence@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

Lemmy.world was taking a "let's wait and see" stance towards them last I checked. This is after the community asked them to not federate with Threads.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh, that's nice. Realistically, LW probably has the most chances of weathering a massive user onslaught, they kind of had to do it already, so hopefully could extend the same actuation protocols.

From what I understand from the video, Threads is also going to do it in several phases, starting with allowing the fediverse to follow a select few people on Threads, then allowing more people to get followed, then bidirectional messaging, then following anyone from anywhere.

They're also pairing it with Threads launch in Europe, then citing it as a reason along "compliance" and "scrutiny on our company", which IMHO is the main reason they're doing any of this at all, since the EU seems to want open communication protocols and crack down on these international social behemots. The stepped approach means people on the fediverse will first be able to follow people on Threads, before the reverse happens, so content creators and influencers (or politicians) will want to use a Threads account to have a larger reach... which is how Meta might try to lure people off Mastodon, but we'll see.

PS: the video in this post: https://mastodon.social/@mosseri@threads.net/111579802298134707