Is Beehaw federating with Threads? (beehaw.org)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by TheBaldness@beehaw.org to c/support@beehaw.org

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I'm out of the loop. Are we federating with Threads or not?

EDIT: The answer is no, we are not federating with Threads. Thank you. That's the answer I was hoping for.

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[-] admin@beehaw.org 125 points 8 months ago

No.

[-] newtraditionalists@beehaw.org 29 points 8 months ago

Damn, i love beehaw

[-] fckgwrhqq2yxrkt@beehaw.org 27 points 8 months ago

And this is why I choose beehaw. A well defined set of ethics that are actually followed is way too rare.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 11 points 8 months ago

Not sure about ethics, but if the argument of "excessive moderation overhead" still holds true for staying defederated from Lemmy.world, the same should apply a thousandfold for Threads.

[-] alyaza@beehaw.org 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

yeah i mean this is the veto even if we wanted to do this (which we don't) and even if the community wanted it (which they clearly don't seem to--nobody's clamored for us to federate with Threads). even a tiny fraction of a fraction of threads being involved with our site would probably top the peak of workload we had when Lemmy took off. there is no current realistic circumstance in which we'd ever choose to or be able to federate with them.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

You guys are not federated with lemmy.world‽

Doesn't that exclude a LOT of content?

[-] anothermember@beehaw.org 13 points 8 months ago

It cuts out a lot of spam and low-effort posting.

[-] PaddleMaster@beehaw.org 13 points 8 months ago

I have a Beehaw account and another that federates with .world. I enjoy my Beehaw account much more, to the point I almost never use the other account. There’s just much more valuable content here.

I do miss some of the more niche Reddit subs i frequented before the purge. That’s probably the only thing really lacking. And it probably more a testament to how busy I’ve been this year. I just don’t have the time to explore other instance’s communities that Beehaw does federate with.

[-] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 10 points 8 months ago

There is a big difference between a lot of content and quality content. I appreciate Beehaw for our quality, not the quantity. There are certainly some great content on other instances, but sorting through the crap noise to find the good, just isn't worth my effort.

[+] MJBrune@beehaw.org 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

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[-] anothermember@beehaw.org 7 points 8 months ago

You're not the first person I've heard who said that so there must be something there. That's not my experience however, I find that Reddit makes me angry these days, getting annoyed at all the low-effort, inconsiderate posting. Having a debate on Reddit is impossible I find because saying something that goes slightly against the hive-mind you'll you'll be passive-aggressively downvoted, which has a chilling effect on what people say. I like that Beehaw doesn't have downvotes, especially on local communities. On Beehaw/Lemmy someone might argue with you but that's at least better I think than the knee-jerk downvote-to-oblivion you get on Reddit.

It's true that a lot of people are more similar here than on Reddit. I'd argue that's not necessarily a bad thing. The one-size-fits-all social network for everybody approach I think doesn't work, it's more natural to choose a group you fit in to and feel comfortable with (which is how things were on old style forums and message boards). What ever happens to Lemmy/Beehaw in the future, the main thing I hope for is to have plenty of choice of smaller forums which is what's been lacking in the last decade or so.

[-] bermuda@beehaw.org 3 points 8 months ago

I've been experiencing more argumentation from non-beehaw users. I think they treat our communities (Politics, LGBTQ, News, etc.) as defaults and they don't realize that they're on beehaw. I've reminded people of the rules before and had responses telling me they didn't realize they had posted on beehaw.

[-] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago

Unfortunately this is one of the downsides of federation. Without better mod tools for now we just ask that it report anyone who's not being nice and we'll do our best to manage it.

[-] PaddleMaster@beehaw.org 7 points 8 months ago

Reddit is so hostile to women that I never felt comfortable posting anything. I was a lurker. It took me 3 years to make an account, just so I could sub to places and not forget they existed. But in all my years on Reddit, I never posted. I saw how women would get roasted and never felt like part of that community. I would report many comments that were hateful towards women just for the report to come back and say “sorry, nothing wrong here”.

I went back to look up something and it just seems like a cesspool of bots. The front page is nothing but stupid questions that I’ve seen asked more than I can count, memes, screenshots of texts and AITA with the most outrageous scenarios and answers. And guess what, I still see the same hostility towards women. It’s hard to feel welcome and participate with a culture like that.

Way back in the day, Reddit was a place people would argue something to death. If you disagreed with the hive mind, you were shunned. And don’t even think about making a spelling or grammar mistake, you’d get blasted for that too. And every so often, someone would post something compelling, and Reddit would collectively hold that opinion as truth.

I left facebook in 2016, and Reddit feels a lot like facebook was when I left. And now it’s time to move away from Reddit; at least for me.

[-] gt5@beehaw.org 4 points 8 months ago

I was on Reddit for a very long time and a few Lemmy instances when everyone moved. While it’s not perfect, Beehaw is by far the place where I can read comments that are original, less hateful, and less pedantic. I chose Behhaw because everything else is just exhausting to me

[-] _MusicJunkie@beehaw.org 4 points 8 months ago

Couldn't tell you, what am I missing?

[-] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Hard to name anything specific, it's just that most of the content I see scrolling through the feed is from lemmy.world communites or users.

[-] Crankpork@beehaw.org 20 points 8 months ago

Direct and to the point.

[-] Caliper@beehaw.org 18 points 8 months ago

I love this kind of no nonsense answer. Reading the title made me worried there would be endless discussions coming, but this is refreshing.

[-] mnglw@beehaw.org 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

thank you, I'm glad you went with the short answer, leaving absolutely no room for doubt or discussion

this is good, I'm tired of the endless discussions full of goalposts being moved

[-] toothpicks@beehaw.org 12 points 8 months ago

Yay

[-] Auzy@beehaw.org 9 points 8 months ago

I assumed that would be the case. It is difficult to find a non toxic section of Facebook

[-] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 5 points 8 months ago

Thank you

[-] rwhitisissle@beehaw.org 4 points 8 months ago

Thank you, Chris.

[-] hedge@beehaw.org 3 points 8 months ago

😁👍

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 9 points 8 months ago

Just out of curiosity, which Lemmy instances are federating with Threads? It's going to be an interesting thing to... observe.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago

And defederate from, you mean.

[-] cole 1 points 8 months ago

I think it could have a place for some things. Not sure yet

[-] PlasticExistence@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago

Lemmy.world was taking a "let's wait and see" stance towards them last I checked. This is after the community asked them to not federate with Threads.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Oh, that's nice. Realistically, LW probably has the most chances of weathering a massive user onslaught, they kind of had to do it already, so hopefully could extend the same actuation protocols.

From what I understand from the video, Threads is also going to do it in several phases, starting with allowing the fediverse to follow a select few people on Threads, then allowing more people to get followed, then bidirectional messaging, then following anyone from anywhere.

They're also pairing it with Threads launch in Europe, then citing it as a reason along "compliance" and "scrutiny on our company", which IMHO is the main reason they're doing any of this at all, since the EU seems to want open communication protocols and crack down on these international social behemots. The stepped approach means people on the fediverse will first be able to follow people on Threads, before the reverse happens, so content creators and influencers (or politicians) will want to use a Threads account to have a larger reach... which is how Meta might try to lure people off Mastodon, but we'll see.

PS: the video in this post: https://mastodon.social/@mosseri@threads.net/111579802298134707