On the plus side, the Outlook team's Agile burndown charts for the last 8 sprints look perfect!
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Jesus. Funny reading this today when my old Outlook has been a complete shit show since last week, with freezing, minute-long loading times and generally being absolutely unusable for no apparent reason. I'm really loving Outlook right now...
I'm still bitter about Mail & Calendar. It worked wonderfully, but of course they decided to discontinue it.
Wait, which Outlook? Outlook, Outlook (New), Outlook (Old), Outlook (beta), Outlook (omega)?
I just use the web one because I can't be bothered trying to work out which of the 11 outlooks I actually want.
I have two Outlooks and neither of them work
Outlook Copilot Copilot
Developers, developers, developers!
Copilot copilot plus
... for Outlook
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Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series
We have outlook classic at work, and that shit takes a solid 5 mins to actually load up my inbox enough to become functional.
Outlook has always been shit, the new AI slop is just fuel on the fire.
my work computer runs linux, so only o365 webmail outlook, and it's... somewhat functional but the damn ai creeps in on every occasion.
automagic autocorrect that can't decide if I'm typing english, finnish, or mix of both when the occasion needs it? Nah, autocorrect it wrong 100% of the time. But I did find a toggle for it after few weeks.
the apps menu to open eg. teams when needed? only options are copilot and "other apps" - which is also copilot.
not that I need teams that often, but wtf. I started using a bookmark rather than navigating the menus.
Fucking autocorrect keeps turning itself back on after I disable it in my settings. It fucks up more than it helps and I can type fine, including correcting typos and if I miss one the I miss one.
Oh, I love "other apps". My Teams once decided that obscure features like chats and calls belong in there.
Yes, Teams. Put your core functionality out of sight. That's exactly what I wanted.
I think there's an entire department within Microsoft dedicated to just making teams as bad as possible. Is cool features that other chat apps have had for over a decade that teams doesn't support.
Heck, I'd love it if they added a toggle to not hard-pan all audio to the left channel and drop all input from my microphone until I restart Teams and log in again despite having logged in ten minutes ago.
Then you have show computers, or an inbox of 50GB+ of emails over the last decade. I've got about 20k (maybe around 15GB) email after archiving a bunch of data to a .PST, and it's much snapper.
I have to hang onto my old emails, but I'll archive to a local file since I don't need them all the time. I do it by every year, it's very helpful, makes Outlook Classic very fast again. The nice thing is the archives go into the Documents which is then backed up through OneDrive.
Check the plugins list. Some companies have a few.
Microsoft is such garbage these days. My coworkers and I are constantly complaining about all of our Office software that doesn’t function the way it used to and instead only makes our jobs more difficult.
If only managers/IT could see how amazing Linux is.
The productivity gains I'd have from the speed of Linux on my work machine would be noticeable. Plus my mood would greatly improve.
Windows (especially slop 11) cannot handle how much I do at once. My brain is faster than the computer now 😅
I keep seeing people say this and it's like have you actually ever used Linux in a production environment?
Linux is great on single computers systems and of course on servers but trying to manage hundreds of desktops, laptops, iPhones, iPads, random Androids you have to support because C suit, and PoS till systems that run on modified Windows XP and you realise you can't just switch everything over to Linux.
Because Linux doesn't have a clue how to support any of that. As much as Windows is trash and I hate it, there is no replacement for Active Directory or SCCM, even Apple don't have such a robust support system.
Half of the stuff you mentioned already doesn't use Windows.
I've seen places able to include Linux dev machine in their fleet. Not doing it is either laziness, incompetence, or understaffing.
No it's not it's pragmatism. Is it worth putting in all the effort to support Linux in a corporate environment that mostly runs on office suite applications?
If it was a 30 minute drop in solution then yeah by all means we can experiment with it and we can move over gradually but if it's going to require an extensive project it's not worth it. People complaining about this stuff don't work in the corporate IT world, they live in idealised fantasy land.
If Linux was a sensible solution it would have been adopted years ago. No more licence fees, that gets the stuffed shirts happy.
The average office worker cannot differentiate between a file explorer and a web browser. I wish corporate jobs could switch to Linux over Microsoft.
You are correct. Explaining our server vs onedrive/teams/SharePoint is a losing battle with most of their eyes glazing over if you try to explain.
Oh that's alright, everyone in my office just sticks everything in SharePoint. It's got up to 13 terabytes now and they're already whining that that's not enough. I think they're hosting 4K blu-ray rips in there.
Nah, it's probably a <1mb spreadsheet that's updated daily by multiple people that has never had version control settings enabled and it's taking up taking up 10tb.
SharePoint: this is the way.
Oooh very accurate. There is some "mandatory" signing sheet for reading the monthly safety info but anyone can edit it and most people are incompetent with computers. Took only 2 months for my name to get deleted by somebody and I just...never signed it again. Nobody noticed.
I have no idea how IT is taught in schools these days, but there should be a lesson somewhere entitled Excel is not a database, don't use it as a database.
Uhh I think they strap an iPad to a kids head and say worship lord zucc and musky? Seems that way.
I dont think kids learn real computer skills anymore. Pull one 14 year old out of school and have them partition a hard drive. Guarantee they can't.
God, I wish I could upgrade the work computer to Linux. Unfortunately, we need software that is Windows only, and having to virtualize it counterats too many of the benefits
I switched to Linux a few weeks ago on my work laptop. My colleagues are amazed at how fast my Gradle builds are finished. My mood also improved by a lot!
Our office is slowly making the transition. Its been fantastic slowly getting rid of IIS, windows boxes, etc...
What are they transitioning to? It seems difficult to fully escape MicroSlop in the office environment and get everyone onboard, especially when my IT group double checks everything they do with CoPilot first. 😡
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The only solution, as you might’ve guessed, is the move to WinUI. We already reported that Microsoft is now fully committed to WinUI, with Rudy Huyn preparing a team to make native Windows apps, and so we may see a native Outlook too…
One can dream. The prevalence of web apps pretending to be native apps is unfortunate. Just because your devs “know” JavaScript doesn’t mean it is a good language.
So we are going ful circle back to native code, that has worked much faster for decades.
Web technologies on desktop applications was always a bad idea.
It's a feature.
Try fastmail for how to build an instant Web interface that is just ridiculously fast. Everything is instant, it has offline support, email address aliases... I dont know. Couldn't be happier. I literally have nothing to complain about at all.
Except yes, it's part of the five eyes countries, which means every email is likely also in nsa datacenters. I dont like that, and would prefer it not to.
Slopware

Gotta load up all that spyware first.
Good. I want all of the bloated software on my work machine. Whoever uses outlook on their personal device is making a very bad choice.