Xerxes I dug this from ~~scrap metal~~ Mount Athos in ~~a cave~~ 492 BCE!
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Seriously, with the money burned there couls be a ubdersea Pipelinenrywork that spans the globe by now.
That’s a 10 year project if it wasn’t in a war zone.
What if, What if... and hear me out, we use Nukes to Dig?
Edward Teller this you?
Who?
Designer of fusion bomb, want to dig huge hole and canal and harbor using his bomb.
It's not "just a bombbbbb".
It also makes holes!
10??? Lol.
No it's not "10".
Just operation plowshare it in a few months
You get irradiated oil and you get irradiated oil and you get cancer
The oil won't be irradiated, just the area it has to go through and also the food supply for a few billion people who eat fish from the surrounding area.
.. .but the oil will be ok, right?
Oh yeah the oil will be fine so we can push on with the plan.
That mountain?
Rock and stone
FOR KARL!
- Takes time, and probably more money than Iran would ask for in tolls.
- Still within drone range, so won't necessarily stop Iran
- Oil wells are within drone range, so even if shipping is solved Iran could still blow up oil production.
- Very expensive, especially if Iran folds in a month.
it’s a boring solution
Ah! Tunnel under the mountain and send the oil on submarines! Brilliant!
so dig
This gets the NCD seal of approval: 🦭
Damn it, I was hoping to comment "INB4 Project Plowshare," but nope!
I should've known better.

It would be a better solution to build a pipeline moving oil to SA‘s east coast but missing port infrastructure means it would take decades
plus a pipeline is easy to sabotage and destroyed with bombs or missiles.
What’s never mentioned in these discussions is the UAE actually built a railway that bypasses the straight of Hormuz.

Pump the water up over the mountain. Put a turbine at the bottom on the other side. According to the law of conservation of energy, you'll generate the exact amount of power to pump the water up, so it wouldn't even cost anything to run.
At this point I can’t even tell if you’re serious
Why even pump it? Let it evaporate naturally, and it will eventually just rain down on its own.
The boats need the water pumped to ride the current up the mountain.
You make a compelling argument, sir.
We are not completely efficient in energy, we lose a lot in the process. You will take more, and how do you not know that already?
I know it's an unstable part of the world but I think if you had a strong enough military presence around the pumping and turbine stations you could reduce the energy losses to a negligible amount.
Energy losses are due to resistance. Military can't do shit.
Energy losses are due to resistance
This is exactly why a military presence is needed. If the military can quell the resistance force fighting against the canal/waterway, then the energy losses from sabotage and theft would be minimized. A strong military presense is the only way to deal with this problem.
No military is capable of defeating thermodynamics - resistance has known activity on every region on the planet, and apparently on every body in the galaxy too. Just the cost of sending an occupation force to Jupiter would be ruinous, let alone Afghanistan.
Are you fucking with me? Specific resistance refers to the conductors, copper, aluminum, silver, etc. An amount is lost to to it, and over long distances it adds up.
Yes. This is a NCD post about building a 200km canal through mountians. I understand that pumping water through a mountian range will not work to transport tanker ships.
But image how many jobs this could create!! 🤯
US wanted to do something similar with nukes in the 60s
There's a number of cities there now, so it's not really an option anymore.
Project Plowshare - the ultimate hammer looking for a nail.
The Ben Gurion Canal was a plan to bypass the Suez by blasting a canal with nukes, through what is now israel
ploughshare
Not gonna lie getting a big budget to fuck around with explosives in the desert sounds like a dream job.
I am looking at a map of the world. And that makes me realize... The Earth is FLAT!!!
This is how shoplifting works in the large.
Laughs at mountain in Roman
Why so far back, just dig it near the "nipple" end FFS.
Jeez, what a bunch of maroons!