To any outside observer it looks like Iran has won this war, complete with reparations from the US.
I’m sure Israel will blow this deal up though.
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To any outside observer it looks like Iran has won this war, complete with reparations from the US.
I’m sure Israel will blow this deal up though.
They already bombed Lebanon today, likely to try and derail it again.
Yup, was just going to comment this. Bombs right on time to try and kill any ongoing negotiations. Israel is not a friend to the US, and trump clearly has no control over the situation. Shit, trump going into this nightmare at netanyahoo's request is so on brand for the moron magats and trump.
The US simply has to restrict weapons and money to Israel. Bush senior did it and froze a 10 billions loan
Iran won the war when they dint bend like venezuela did in the first hours of this nonsensical operation. There is nothing the USA can win out of this confict, they are just losing power everywhere..
israel/trump/benjamin has a vested interest in keeping it going. it keeps netanyahu out of jail, and trump out of the epstein files in the news.
American here. I haven't heard the claims, but they're likely true if Trump is upset.
Did you guys know he raped kids?
Yeah, there's these things called the Epstein files. They're pretty shocking, but his followers care more about what's in all our fucking pants. Just like him, they're also perverts. They want to see our genetalia before we enter bathrooms. Sick fucks.
Did you guys know he raped kids?
I heard some of those raped kids ended up dead. Some beaten. All raped. https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1qtyb43/epstein_and_maxwell_buried_2_girls_strangled_to/
Court testimony was that some of them ended up beaten due to trump not liking them during sex. One bit him so he pulled her hair and punched her in the face. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/doj-releases-epstein-files-containing-sexual-assault-allegations-against-trump
2 died from "rough sex" by testimony of one worker at zoro ranch. Dug up graves were found when they looked for bodies.
Also, there were hundreds of rape victims, and about 22 have died publicly since the story broke. And trump still walks free.
According to leaks to Iranian media the draft includes a reconstruction which will result in Tehran receiving $300 billion to rebuild its cities. Also included will be the release of $24 billion in blocked Iranian funds, half of which must be paid to Iran before fresh talks start.
Damn, that's an Israeli level supply of foreign aid.
Art of the deal
Very dishonorable people to deal with.
Pot, meet kettle.
Acting honorably around Trump is raw stupidity. The same is doubly valid for Netanyahu.
It is impossible to verify the draft agreement, which the Mirror has been given, because it could be a Tehran bid to combat the lies about settlements uttered by Trump.
Even the mirror is calling all sides as lacking credibility, fucking hell if that's not an indication of how fucked this whole situation is...
So this technically means that Iran won, right?
No, its not victory, its just them getting whatever they want and us giving it to them in order to make the killing stop.
Who knows. The usa is not trustworthy
If the leaked details are remotely accurate (they're consistent with previous leaked drafts, so they do sound credible) this is a total capitulation on the part of the United States.
lol that fuckin strait ain't opening this year, is it
say bye bye to economic growth by next month
Iran will keep it closed until after the elections. They understand exactly how poisonous this is to Trump, and how it will affect MAGA in the election. Keeping the Strait closed hurts Trump and MAGA more than all the missiles in their arsenal, and they have to do almost nothing to maintain it for as long as they feel like it.
If Trump tries to throw a few missiles, they'll just retaliate by bombing our shitty friends (but not Saudi Arabia, never the Saudis), who will then get madder at US.
Here's some hopium for us all: Considering how little the average person has benefited from economic growth, that might not be so bad.
Especially if it hastens our independence from fossil fuels (which, in a sane world, events like this absolutely should).
You don't benefit from economic growth, but you damn sure will get fired if we have another once in a life time recession. Don't worry though, bailouts for the brave companies firings workers.
That is a wild thought. I saw something that said the top ten percent of the economy is the only sector of the economy showing any movement. Essentially that 90% of Americans have zero economic power.
Your observation kinda lines up with that. It would also make "I love the inflation" make sense. The capital class is doing good.
Hold on to your britches, the economy is going down like a rollercoaster. After the SpaceX and other AI company IPOs, odds are that a bubble much larger than the Dotcom iteration will explode.
I could do with less interesting times.
The president keeps straight up lying and saying the deal covers the nuclear issue, even as Iran says it doesn't.
This deal won't hold even if it's reached. As if our president could say no to Israel when they restart hostilities. This thing won't end, it just remains to be seen if Iran is willing to accept lebanon being turned into gaza and attacks against Iran and their people while still keeping the straits open.
This will go on forever, peace deal or no.
So Obama merely released Iran's own monetary assets in American banks that we had frozen, which Trump attacked relentlessly, as recently as last week, but now he's going to PAY them to repair the damage HE caused?
He won't be able to rationalize these concessions, so once again he will kill the deal, and blame Biden.
According to news headlines, Trump has exploded AND melted down this week.
I wish it were true.
3.6 Roentgen.
Iran knows he's lying. There is no value in Trump's words.
Art of the deal, everyone
Deal implodes Monday and Bessent makes a few million. Tune in next week for more market manipulation!
art of the deal.
The article says solving the nuclear issue is not realistic in 60 days, I think it is. Trump will propose to reinstate what Obama obtained, with his name sharpied over.
Iran will never accept those terms today. That ship sailed when USA attacked Iran in the middle of negotiations.
And now Iran has found out their negotiation position is way better than they thought before Israel ans USA attacked them.
Art of the deal. Fucking idiot.
Haha he's so used to his deals being unknown so he probably can't accept one less than Obama's previous deal since itll be public. Hard to spin the cash they're giving them when numbers are known.
This is your bed you lay in it, unfortunately a position Trump will never accept. Mean hopefully he does for everyone else but that alone means nothing for Trump....the great deal maker, the bastion of making a deal, apparently he made an art of it or something by being the best bullshitter.
SOP with Trump: lose and declare victory.
The thing I wanna know is how many israeli's are doing the Anne Frank thing with palestinian families. You know: hiding them in the basement and feeding them.