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I'm developing a personal project and I often use chat only AI customized to give me short answers, some times just to throw some ideas that then I'll search on the web later. Other times to help me troubleshoot problems, NEVER to write code.

I don't use it to write neither index my code base, it's just arbitrary questions when needed.

I use it in a consulting basis maybe 20 prompts a day, 3-4 days a week. I'm on process of learning a new language and framework so the more I learn the less I use it. I've read books already and saw a few tutorial videos, but for real life projects things are way different and to troubleshoot some issues you need a more complex guidance that consider contexts that most of the time a simple search on the internet won't help.

If the project goes well, I plan to add an AI note on my project explaining how it was used, I wonder how people feel about it, especially the anti-AI people. I'll also block any AI code-generation contribution, since I'm not using any as well, and I don't accept it in any way, I think every AI code (if used) need to pass through an human mind to be analyzed and be taken the best decision about it.

I'm using open-source models for that (Qwen).

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Just use a rubber duck, it consumes no power.

[–] algernon@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, it isn't. In my opinion, using LLMs/"AI" for anything is unethical, and unacceptable.

That includes "open-source" models too, because they're all trained by scraping the internet, and many of them (especially Qwen) try very hard to get around any and all attempts at blocking them. Not only do they not respect neither /robots.txt nor x-robots-tag headers, Qwen - and many other models - collect training data by using residential proxies, and by trying to fake real browsers, to get around crawler defenses.

For receipts, see here for example: AliBaba sent over a million requests my way in a single day. That's already a lot, but: I'm firewalling these crawlers off for 12 hours after the first hit. It would have been a lot more if it weren't for the firewall (before the firewall, I often had 60-70 million requests / day from Alibaba alone). Here's how it looked prior to the firewall. Look at the "Rule hit distribution" panel. That near constant 200req/sec "asn" is almost entirely Alibaba. Much of the ~300req/sec "faked-browser" too, and I suspect that at least half of the "generated-url" wave with its ~800req/sec top are also Alibaba through residential proxies.

These crawlers are DDoSing the entire internet, and we have to come up with stupid defenses to keep ourselves online. By using any of these models, you're enabling them. Don't do that.

If you want to learn a new programming language, have its docs open, find small projects written in the language, find well documented libraries, packages, etc, and explore those. Far more accurate than any LLM, and you're not supporting the AI bubble and the relentless DDoS. You can even shove those resources into a personal search engine and query that. Hister is a decent option for that, for example.

[–] JohnHammerSky@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just out of curiosity, what do you think people stuck in a job that requires AI use to do? I mean, what should be their course of action?

[–] Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unionize.

And then tell your boss to suck it :)

[–] JohnHammerSky@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

It seems pretty good in theory.

[–] algernon@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Complain first, malicious compliance after, job seeking next, then move on to a better company. If the C-suite has a very strong hard-on for AI, skip the first two. Once the bubble pops, many of these companies that mandated AI will pop too - leave the ship before that happens.

Been there, done that, there are jobs without AI requirements, and increasingly more that forbid AI. It's not easy, but it is doable.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

No but in Spanish.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Friend you've posted this in the "fuck ai" community.

[–] JohnHammerSky@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Do you know by any change if is there any other community I can discuss about AI in a more impartial way?

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think anybody in a group literally called "Fuck AI" is going to help you use AI, to be honest.

[–] JohnHammerSky@lemmy.today -1 points 1 day ago

I don't want to get help using AI, I already know how to do it.

I want a community more open-minded about AI discussions.

[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

I usually avoid projects that have an Agents.md or similar. Tho tbf I think using it as an approximate search engine is one of the only reasonable use-cases of this tech (at least if you're using a local model)

[–] Azzu@leminal.space 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why is it worth it to risk hallucinations when you can just get information from where the LLM gets its information from?

[–] JohnHammerSky@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Idk why I didn't think about it before, thank you!

https://i.giphy.com/eZWDtObUy1AycMofFB.webp

Eh. Not great for various reasons I’m sure others will state in full.

I find AI consultation gets… stale after a while if that makes sense? Admittedly it did at least help me articulate my questions faster when I was having trouble finding my words in the initial phase of learning something but beyond that it felt lacking. Stagnant even.

Ultimately I felt I got more out of poking my head around in various places and talking to people. They’re harder to interface with at times sure but more helpful overall. I felt engaged and had better ideas after a human-to-human discussion.

Having transparency with AI usage sounds like a good idea though.

[–] jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, anyone who uses, or has even a single time used, AI deliberately (or accidentally) is stupid and a witch... with warts... and should be burned at the stake... Huzzah.

[–] JohnHammerSky@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Anyone that read AI generated content by mistake should be burned imo