Wow, another illegal move by the fascist party. Can't wait for SCOTUS to fuck the states yet again.
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The executive branch doesn’t run or control the post office. Of course that won’t stop them from trying. Wondering who will bring the first lawsuit.
the feds don't run states' elections either, even for federal offices.
You need to catch up on the last decade or so. Dejoy did irreperable damage. Biden blamed inactivity on not being able to intervene with board of governors. Trump does so without reservation of course. New dickhead postmaster general was a FedEx board member who's tasked with setting the USPS up to fail and force a privatization play... And make the uniforms more "hot" as trump directed.
Here's some of the story: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/11/22/twcq-n22.html
Fun fact, the postal service is older than the US government.
How 'bout them states' rights, conservatives?
They would just say the USPS is federal
"Trump wants postal service to block mail in ballots for states that don't suck up to his rules"
Same reality, highlighting the insanity of the actor.
Not just suck up to the rules like they are arbitrary.
In this case, they want those voter rolls so they can suppress votes and persecute political opponents.
Watching the wildly slow ramp up to a breakup of the US in whatever form it takes is agonizing, shits been coming for a hot minute and we’ve blown by the few potential off-ramps.
My money is on a Balkan style civil war
Personally I think we'll see a civil war for a bit but it'll burn out relatively quickly due to lack of fuel, then we may see a troubles like situation for a bit in some regions.
The troubles is my second most likely bet, being real I had figured there would be more outrage and action already so my predictions may be tainted by hope in humanity
I think at this point we're on this weird razor edge of instability where everything is going to shit but it isn't quite bad enough to outright cause the whole thing to collapse, so everyone is sitting around just kinda waiting. Personally I subscribe to the addage "The fall of empire is slow until it's not" so this type of shit was always a distinct possibility. I do think there's a chance shit will come to a head either when the stock market implodes or when something unseen kicks in and causes issues.
Yeah I don’t disagree at all, I think I underestimated how placated the American public(myself included) were and how much that would drive us to just keep on with our daily routines. Eventually something will break but I can’t see what might be anymore. Gas prices and the midterms will be interesting indicators, $7 a gallon in Tennessee or the like might cause something in rural areas while election denial claims if the DNC wins big in November could prompt a crisis on the state gov level. But limbo is where we are right now for sure
Honestly if I'm being completely realistic it probably won't be a major thing that kicks off balkanization or whatever but moreso a straw that broke the camels back type thing. It could very well be something stupid like Trump dying and the power struggle on the right ripping apart whatever little internal cohesion remains. Or it could just be just a police shooting and subsequent protest spiraling into a succession crises followed by balkanization.
Regardless of what the turning point is I feel it’s locked in at this point in some form
I stand for postal neutrality.
If the judiciary doesn't block this implementation, I think we're basically cooked. I think the federal Republic will functionally cease to exist and we'll slowly disintegrate over time. I have no idea whether that process will be violent. But I'm not confident that it won't be.
We live in a dystopia and it's so disappointing and stupid. When I think about the sacrifices people like my grandparents made during the civil rights movement to secure the rights and liberties we enjoy, this wildly precipitous regression breaks my heart.
Yes, progress isn't linear. This is well-understood. And I don't have the benefit of lived experience to know whether this bout of regression is fundamentally worse or different. But I am well-read and well-acquainted with history. My feeling is that we could lose it all.
Fortunately, I am often wrong. I hope I am this time.
So what’s stopping states from sending ballots via ups or fedex? Like I know that’s more expensive but if democracy and privacy are at stake is this an option for the short term?
Ignoring legal hurdles like ballot harvesting, and ignoring that ballots must be postmarked to be considered valid—which means this whole situation would require the USPS, which is currently cooperating with the administration, to actually go behind their back and organize a system of postmarking then handing them off to a private company for delivery—it’s only possible if UPS or FedEx will accept them.
Will a giant private company accept a bunch of responsibility and do something altruistic that is also anti-Republican Party? Tune in to find out!
Postmarking no longer counts towards the deadline of things like tax returns, I am guessing voting as well.
Mail in ballots still require postmarks edit, unless you’re dropping them off by hand. That’s an incorrect guess and a misunderstanding of postmarks.
Your tax returns are considered timely if you hand them over to the USPS by the deadline. The postmark date was used as evidence to this point. The USPS clarified that postmarking wouldn’t be happening until your mail arrived at sorting facilities, so even if you technically dropped it in a blue box on the right date it may not get postmarked til later. That’s not really a change; obviously there are no little people employed to hide inside and stamp mail you drop in a hole. There’s also a last collection time written on all the boxes. However, distances between collection points and sorting facilities is increasing and transportation in some cases is getting less frequent. Also operations is less well staffed and the policy announcement is masking operational delays. As always if you want something stamped with the date you go to the window at a post office before they close.
It was at stake in 2024, people couldn't give two shits then. Why would they now when more and more obstacles are being thrown in the way by the shitbags they allowed into power in the first place.
Let's see the lawyers do their work.
Wow that really sucks. I'm living abroad and do not want to have to fly back home to vote
vote. mail it in. and be a part of the class action suit. this “rule” won’t last.
This is not looking good
I see USPS' lawyers will be busy... Hopefully Congress reimburses them for all the lawsuits.
The US postal service has enough financial problems without dropping a new job on them.
USPS is not a business, and therefore not required to be profitable.
Furthermore, USPS's financial problems that consistently make headlines were manufactured by a 2006 federal act that required them to prefund health and retirement benefits 75 years in advance. The policy was a republican gift to private shipping companies (UPS, FedEx, etc), it was repealed under Biden.
Although they are still stuck with the contract Trump 1 saddled them with for awful and expensive delivery vehicles.
Although they are still stuck with the contract Trump 1 saddled them with for awful and expensive delivery vehicles.
The replacement procurement process was started in January 2015, before Trump. And the contract itself was signed by Biden in 2021.
Do you have anything to back up the NGDV being awful? Because from everything I can find that's not the case. They're much safer (airbags, anti-lock brakes, and crumple zones), and have Air Conditioning. The commentary I can find from actual USPS workers seems pretty positive. Most of the complaints are more from armchair redditors about the design, which is obviously secondary to the utility for this type of use case. Or they are complaints about the 10/90 BEV/ICE procurement split decided by the Trump admin, citing cost... even though the price difference was only about $3 Billion. Not actually complaints about the NGDV itself being a bad replacement for the LLV.
The NGDV uses modern components, has modern safety features (the old LLV basically had none), and it's available with both an ICE and BEV powertrain, and the ICE option can be swapped out later to the BEV, it's not stuck being a gas powered vehicle forever.
The old Grumman LLV has needed a replacement for decades. Anecdotally, I had two spontaneously catch fire in front on our house several years ago, about a month or so apart from failed components, likely due to age. Maintaining them cost a fortune because of that.
Mail delivery is a near perfect use case for a BEV. Nearly identical routes every day, less than 70 miles total, with known time and distances. And long times of non-use overnight to charge the batteries, no fast charge needed.
Mortal Kombat announcer: FACTUALITY
I thought they were going to deploy like 80% of the fleet as BEV but Trump decided it should be more like 80% ICE. Conversions later, who and when and how much? Vs just getting the right thing from the beginning? Trump's hatred of renewables fucked up the process just like so many others.
There is a financial anchor jamming up postal operations, however you want to describe it.
https://www.npr.org/2026/03/17/nx-s1-5750419/usps-running-out-of-money-postal-service-david-steiner
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