Genuinely, when online ID starts being rolled out, I will no longer be an inside person. I will just have to do woodworking, mechanical, or literally anything else. I refuse to partake in such stupidity.
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Same here. I might end up spending a good chunk of my free time at the local park with a chess board and a music player with two sets of headphones, inviting strangers to play, listen and chat. If they take away my ability to broadcast shitposts and critique of the regime on the internet, I'll dedicate myself to individually turning my neighbors into angry leftists one long afternoon at a time.
Like, there are other, better ways to get involved, yes; but I'm talking about how I spend my free time, what I do for shits and giggles. This is normally filled with video games and internet shitposting, and so help me the last thing this government wants to do is give more people like me, more free time.
I'll pitch in. I saw this coming in 2023, sold a lot of PC hardware and pivoted to Cameras and bought some hard drives to fill up with media, and I've done tons of hiking, almost every trail on my side of my state and some that aren't. Picked up pipesmoking, made some buddies there in that community, branched away from the hustle and bustle, started a massive ebook collection and I've read anything I can find that doesn't start with "Nutrition Facts".
If anyone is worried about the internet, now ain't the time to worry, now's the time to get moving and get done what you need done before the gate closes for good.
"we lost?"
Like a piss in the wind, there wasn't even a fight.
I mean you could shitpost from the park while you wait for someone to play too
We will still have centralized/defederated platforms that won't comply, mesh networks and protocols like i2p but I can absolutely understand wanting out.
The Internet inherently routes around malfunctioning network segments.
Any law like those mentioned will be used to legitimize selective enforcement, only against those who upset the wrong important person.
Stay anonymous and locked down, don’t comment from your point of origin. Don’t use corporate services.
Don’t use corporate services.
The vast majority of the ethernet, cable, and fiber that connects people is owned by a corporation.
I hate this argument because it misses the bigger point that the infrastructure of the internet is not publicly owned but is privately owned by corporations.
Build community LANs that aren't connected to the internet. Use sneakernets to share information via USB. Use encrypted LoRa for messaging among community members.
Yes, I see a future of two "internets". One corporate and another for the people. The People's Internet will be deemed illegal and hunted down. Seems like there's a movie there somewhere....
A move with a lot of "I'm in".
HACK THE PLANET!!!!!!
We need an Internet 2.0 invite only. no bots, governments, or companies allowed.
The People's Internet!
...with blackjack and hookers....?
So, like onion?
Onion is good, but it isn’t stopping corporations or bots. It just reroutes traffic and tries to make every user look the same. Onion on top of public infrastructure would be nice.
Meshtastic is not a good type of infrastructure for these kind of workloads though… and I don’t see how we’re going to lay lines as a community, unless it’s sponsored by the government via taxes. What would be the best way to kickstart a network like the Internet, but separate from it?
Edit: Guifi.net is interesting.
Guifi.net is a massive, citizen-driven community telecommunications network primarily based in Spain. Operating as a shared resource, it allows volunteers, local businesses, and municipalities to pool infrastructure and build a free, open, and neutral network outside traditional commercial ISPs.
How it Works
The Commons Model: Participants agree to the Compact for a Free, Open, and Neutral Network (FONN). You build or connect a node to share connectivity; in return, you get access to the broader mesh network. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Infrastructure: The network relies heavily on point-to-point wireless links, but also includes widespread fiber optic deployments. [1]
The Foundation: The Guifi.net Foundation provides governance tools, manages critical infrastructure, and ensures legal operation as a registered telecommunications operator. [1]
If that headline is true, it's allresdy too late
Anyone who's been chucked off Reddit knows we're already there.
slow your roll.
getting kicked off Reddit, a private entity, is not a violation of your free speech.
having FBI agents show up at your door asking threatening questions about your Reddit history is.
Reddit is a community of millions, and I can no longer talk there because they do not like my politics. It is not illegal to do this, I agree entirely. This is not a violation of the constitution. I am not even an American.
But it is a violation of my ability to speak freely, inflicted by a billionaire because he is politically allied with Israel.
The places we treat like public agoras in the modern day are controlled by private citizens, based entirely on their wealth. Zuck, spez, Ellison, Musk, and a few more; these handful of white men control who is allowed to interact in the defacto public arenas of the internet.
Sure, I can come here, and this is exactly why Lemmy and all the other forums of the Fediverse were made. I hope this gets big.
But right now, what opinions and ideas the vast majority of people are exposed to are quietly being limited, so quietly they mostly don't know.
Is that good? Should I shrug and say "Oh well, it's a billionaire, not the government, so it's okay that they have all this power."?
Facebook, twitter, YouTube, Google Search, and Amazon Books accepted a vast quantity of secret, backdoor censorship "requests" from the US government, mostly during Biden's administration. Facebook had a private web portal for requests and bragged about handling millions of requests per year. Private emails with Mark Zuckerberg lament that they have been processing requests that are very clear free speech, and are not even misinformation, such as statements of opinion. Facebook in particular, closed this portal before Trump took office. Reddit is not named in this document but I am personally certain they took similar requests.
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I got shadow banned on Reddit for Luigi support and I just got shadow banned on facebook for Albania support this week.
Albania eh? I see the Wag The Dog timeline is in full swing.
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would require users to disclose personal information before accessing lawful speech online
That's a relief, as I fully intend to break whatever law it is and continue discussions with you gentlefolk unlawfully.
I never thought I'd see the day when China started to look more inclined to allow free speech than the US. Yet, here we are.
You never thought the country which bombs other countries and kidnaps their presidents would become more restrictive/authoritarian than the one which generally doesn't?
Seems pretty predictable to me idk. People are so steeped in American exceptionalism mythology.
I know, what China did to Tibet was so wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gedhun_Choekyi_Nyima
Edit: oh you were talking about the US. Yes they have also kidnapped leaders and attacked other nations just like China has.
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Start downloading and stockpiling all the porn you can!
Way ahead of you
Dude you're already fucked. Have been for decades at this point.
Well, too bad; Donny is good at bad deals.
Edit2 : I misunderstood the breadth of that bill and you can ignore the rest of my post below. I suggest reading my last comment on this post that links to the EFF report on the No Fakes Act.
Sorry !
The NO FAKES Act create a broad, new right to restrict AI-generated depictions of a person's voice and likeness — and in the process expose users, creators, platforms, and developers to lawsuits for everyday speech like memes and parodies.
For the other two laws I completely agree that they are dangerous.
But for the NO FAKES act, in my opinion it's actually a useful one. AI fakes in my opinion serve no purpose and can very easily be used to spread misinformation. And as far as I can tell as long as you meme without using generative AI you can caricature and mock your politics as long as you want.
I'm surprised a community that is very much anti-AI seems to oppose this NO FAKES act ?
Bear in mind that I'm commenting from the perspective of an European so our conception of freedom of speech and its limitations is culturally different.
I'm certain AI fakes will be used nefariously to manipulate voters and if the cost is AI memes, so be it.
It's too bad this article conflates privacy invading laws with a law restricting the use of generative AI which is pretty much completely unregulated as of now ?
Edit : We have an EU regulation for this type of AI fakes coming into effect in August 2026 for anyone interested :
The EU AI Act is the world's first comprehensive law on Artificial Intelligence and applies across all EU member states. It doesn't ban deepfakes but imposes strict transparency obligations to ensure citizens are not unknowingly deceived. It is set to take effect on August 2, 2026.
Without dogging too far, it seems like the law is broadly worded enough to open the door for all sorts of SLAPP-type takedowns, a bit like how DMCA is weaponized against people that don't have armies of lawyers.
Also, the other source (not the bill itself, mind you, so might be wrong) says "digitally generated", not "AI generated", which could be stretched to apply to any image manipulation, like cropping.
Then of course there's the question of reliably differentiating between AI and non-AI. Which basically means whoever has the biggest legal cannon to fire at the other guy wins.
I tried checking the actual bill and it seems you are correct and its target is not only limited to AI generated fakes but everything digital.
I have now found a summary of the EFF about the NO FAKES act and I'm most likely misunderstanding the breadth of that bill :
https://www.eff.org/files/2024/09/12/2024.11_no_fakes_one_pager.pdf
I almost blindly trust the EFF on these types of questions, they have been an invaluable ressource even in Europe to protect citizens.
I suppose the European approach is probably safer here since it doesn't limit speech but mandates transparency on AI fakes.
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I guess Heinlein was like armed society is Luigi society or something
If it's not the government the. it's big tech. You can't even ~~fuck~~ frick online anymore.
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