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There are already established workarounds for this.
There are kirpan (the knives) that are very short, intentionally blunted and even difficult to draw on top of all that. Those are a fairly standard option. Even calling it a knife at that point is almost a technicality.
A lot of them are welded shut too.
Even calling it a knife at that point is almost a technicality.
intentionally blunted
Doesn't this kind of defeat the entire purpose of the kirpan? I know that is mostly ceremonial these days, but my understanding is that Sikhs are still meant to be prepared to use it at any time to fight against an injustice. If the blade is blunted, they can't do that.
You're not wrong, but I've never met a sikh who wasn't basically the definition of accommodating.
I'm not big on religion and I find many religious people problematic but Sikh people have been extremely hospitable and accommodating and friendly. I'm sure there are rotten eggs but a religion that is based on actual tolerance and doesn't want to shut down other people's beliefs seems to be a pretty good way to get the followers to behave.
Same. I've never had anything but pleasant interactions with Sikhs
As a huge fan of hair, all I can say is that if their god makes it a rule not to cut it, that’s a god I can agree with. Long hair for everyone!
Just add it to the list of inconvenient religious prescriptions that get "interpreted" away. I'm not even talking about one religion in specific, it's how the sociology of religious communities inevitably works.
Whether you're allowed to carry a knife or not isn't worth mentioning. Ultimately the police mishandled the situation and as a result somebody died.
When your stabbed in the heart there's precious little they can do for you. The police absolutely did mishandle it though. But the mishandling realistically didn't contribute to the death. Even if they had immediately applied pressure and chest compression. The odds of survival were truly Vanishing. But handcuffing them and leaving them to die was just callous and unnecessary. But that's how police operate. You have to remember the average person would have hardly been qualified to handle that situation and the police are always less qualified than that.
And for once this person was white. Can't see Stephen Yelly ranting about black Brits dying under police supervision.
Maybe we just ought not to freak out about somebody carrying mankind's oldest tool like a bunch of sissy babies, hmm?
mankind’s oldest tool
If obsidian axes are outlawed, only outlaws will have obsidian axes.
I'm sorry, but banning a knife is about the dumbest shit I've ever heard. You could stab someone with a screwdriver. Are y'all going to ban screwdrivers next?
Carrying a knife, other than a folding pocket knife, without ‘good reason’ is already illegal in the UK.
What they’re talking about is removing the exception for the kirpan.
Im not going to read this fud. Its a non issue. There is no size requirement in the religion nor must it be sharp. Its a non issue knife wise. Its a decoration.
Literally they make knives that are locked esp for this reason, just xenophobia
yeah maybe some nutter is going to insist a full knife is his object but you just tell him no you have to get a decorative one but you are going to have someone doing crap like that for all sorts of reasons not just this one religion.
Ok, but why would you?
Kirpan stabbings pale in comparison to other forms of stabbing. It's just dumb reactionary shit. I'm tired of dumb reactionary shit, can we talk about wealth inequality yet?
A knife is a knife. The laws governing them exist for reasons, hopefully wise ones but not always. Any reason that requires a law is still valid for the religious as much as the non religious. If the law is wise, then exceptions for the religious is unwise. If the law is not wise, it should be removed for everyone, not exempted as a privilege for the few and especially not exclusively for the religious.
Everyone should be able to carry a knife, they come in handy all of the time.
Sure, people get stabbed with them. And they get hit with bats. And they get slammed with bricks. And they get stomped on curbs. And so on, we don't live in Nerfland.
And they get shot with guns. And get obliterated with bazookas.
"Weapons are part of my religion."
--Din Djarin, The Mandalorian
And yet Burnham has said he'll keep this authoritarian piglet in his cabinet.