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[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 31 minutes ago)

A knife is a knife. The laws governing them exist for reasons, hopefully wise ones but not always. Any reason that requires a law is still valid for the religious as much as the non religious. If the law is wise, then exceptions for the religious is unwise. If the law is not wise, it should be removed for everyone, not exempted as a privilege for the few and especially not exclusively for the religious.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Everyone should be able to carry a knife, they come in handy all of the time.

Sure, people get stabbed with them. And they get hit with bats. And they get slammed with bricks. And they get stomped on curbs. And so on, we don't live in Nerfland.

[–] Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app 13 points 13 hours ago

Ok, but why would you?

Kirpan stabbings pale in comparison to other forms of stabbing. It's just dumb reactionary shit. I'm tired of dumb reactionary shit, can we talk about wealth inequality yet?

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 10 hours ago

"Weapons are part of my religion."

--Din Djarin, The Mandalorian

[–] GMac@feddit.org -1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

If they come for the sgian dhubh, the Scottish independence movement will get a huge boost. Bring it on 😂

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 16 hours ago

And yet Burnham has said he'll keep this authoritarian piglet in his cabinet.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Im not going to read this fud. Its a non issue. There is no size requirement in the religion nor must it be sharp. Its a non issue knife wise. Its a decoration.

[–] nooch@lemmy.vg 3 points 15 hours ago

Literally they make knives that are locked esp for this reason, just xenophobia

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

There are already established workarounds for this.

There are kirpan (the knives) that are very short, intentionally blunted and even difficult to draw on top of all that. Those are a fairly standard option. Even calling it a knife at that point is almost a technicality.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

intentionally blunted

Doesn't this kind of defeat the entire purpose of the kirpan? I know that is mostly ceremonial these days, but my understanding is that Sikhs are still meant to be prepared to use it at any time to fight against an injustice. If the blade is blunted, they can't do that.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You're not wrong, but I've never met a sikh who wasn't basically the definition of accommodating.

[–] MirrorGiraffe@piefed.social 2 points 10 hours ago

I'm not big on religion and I find many religious people problematic but Sikh people have been extremely hospitable and accommodating and friendly. I'm sure there are rotten eggs but a religion that is based on actual tolerance and doesn't want to shut down other people's beliefs seems to be a pretty good way to get the followers to behave.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Just add it to the list of inconvenient religious prescriptions that get "interpreted" away. I'm not even talking about one religion in specific, it's how the sociology of religious communities inevitably works.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 7 points 23 hours ago

Even calling it a knife at that point is almost a technicality.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 day ago

A lot of them are welded shut too.

[–] magnue@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Whether you're allowed to carry a knife or not isn't worth mentioning. Ultimately the police mishandled the situation and as a result somebody died.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 13 points 1 day ago

When your stabbed in the heart there's precious little they can do for you. The police absolutely did mishandle it though. But the mishandling realistically didn't contribute to the death. Even if they had immediately applied pressure and chest compression. The odds of survival were truly Vanishing. But handcuffing them and leaving them to die was just callous and unnecessary. But that's how police operate. You have to remember the average person would have hardly been qualified to handle that situation and the police are always less qualified than that.

[–] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

And for once this person was white. Can't see Stephen Yelly ranting about black Brits dying under police supervision.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe we just ought not to freak out about somebody carrying mankind's oldest tool like a bunch of sissy babies, hmm?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

mankind’s oldest tool

If obsidian axes are outlawed, only outlaws will have obsidian axes.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm sorry, but banning a knife is about the dumbest shit I've ever heard. You could stab someone with a screwdriver. Are y'all going to ban screwdrivers next?

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (21 children)

Carrying a knife, other than a folding pocket knife, without ‘good reason’ is already illegal in the UK.

What they’re talking about is removing the exception for the kirpan.

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[–] darthsundhaft@piefed.social -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tell that to the stupid USians that preach about their Christian values while being trigger happy any time they meet someone who isn't white.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
[–] darthsundhaft@piefed.social -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Look around mate. It ain't that hard. Don't have to look hard neither. Just watch the news.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

yeah...that's not the problem. the problem is that you brought the US up on a post not about the US as if the US was to blame.

are you brain damaged or something?

[–] darthsundhaft@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

Boo US. Boo US. US sucks. Boo! Boo! Boo!

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

"U.S all bad. Faith all bad. White all bad. Werz muh upvootz 👍 thx."

Seems to be a common validation-farming device on threads like these.

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