sudo apt install --only-upgrade --no-install-recommends "^vivaldi" "^firefox ^nano"
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he ran it in the wrong order πβοΈ
Plus he couldbhave just used 'apt' one command.
Order wrong.
they need to make apt get upgrate that does both in the right order...
You are in luck because you can make this an alias (custom command) in your .bashrc file:
alias update='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
Update first, then upgrade
Good catch. Havenβt been using apt in some time.
sudo pacman -Syu
yay
which yay
yay: aliased to paru
Is it even apt-get still? thought they changed over to apt long ago and apt-get is just a symlink for legacy reasons.
At least that's what I last read... (speaking as someone also loving candy) .
apt is a wrapper over the apt- binaries (apt-search apt-cache etc).
apt is meant more for user interaction and apt-get is more stable and more for scripting. But apt-get is often used in online tutorials because it doesn't really change.
It runs so much faster if you do upgrade first \s
It's the other way around, but yes, very much yes
Update before upgrade you nonce
Cβmon, itβs Debian! Obsolete anyway. Update today, upgrade in a week, not like things gonna change. Perhaps the man forgot the upgrade a week ago, upgraded, and then decided to double-check thereβs nothing new anyway. Right?

Didn't know we were still doing apt-get
I have a lot to learn
iirc, apt-get is the version to use in scripts. They keep the input & output consistent so that it won't break things.
Regular old apt is for humans to use at the command prompt, and that's what I use all the time.
pacman "See you"
It's clear why many Windows users won't switch to Linux, when people show them they'd need to use strange IT tools to use it. While, annoying, Windows doesnt need you to be an IT nerd. Linux doesn't either, but to people outside of the Linux bubble, this is how it gets presented. That Windows update sure looks easier than some manual hack.
apt is NOT a manual hack
To a non IT person who hasn't heard of apt, needing to start the update manually, and needing type some magic words in precisely, is the worst it can get.
In Windows it would be
winget upgrade -all
I'm pretty sure.
Winget update --all
But yes, this updates any packages distributed by Ms store and winget repos. As an IT professional, I love winget.
Winget is a step in the right direction... but man it is SO SLOW. If PowerBI Desktop has an update, it is actually taking me 20+ minutes to update a handful of apps.
I have no artistic skills so freebie: Arch is like Russian roulette where the odds are good but there is still a non-zero chance some update is going to shit the bed. I don't even know how to convey that in meme form either.

I just want to share that last semester, the Windows podium computer we used decided randomly to update during a student presentation. It did not help their nerves, but I did turn it into a chance to evangelize Linux.
And no, they can't use their own laptop, the connections to the podium computer, and thus the projector, use VGA...
KDE Plasma recommends applying updates at reboot like Windows for stability. In fact, that is how it does them by default
KDE Plasma does what I tell it to
Sure, what I'm saying is the "windows way" of applying updates isn't bad and there's a reason why they do it
Aaaand... you're on Debian, so Blender 4.0 just got added to the testing branch. (Blender 4.0 still haven't been tested for 168 hours of continuous running without touching it)
You've heard of archinstall, now get ready for
archupdate
(it's an alias I made for "pacman -Syu")
As someone who works on Windows daily... this is so true. One of the things that really annoys me with Windows is being able to reliably do updates. Running any of the update stuff, seems more like a suggestion and if Windows deems your request worthy, it might SLOWLY do something.
Linux noob here. Just upgraded hardware and reinstalled Windows and Linux on the gaming computers and even though I'm a complete Linux beginner, 9 out of 10 software issues were with windows! I couldn't believe a gazzilion dollar company with thousands of employees still couldn't get it right?
The user interface on the left and the command prompt on the right does kinda highlight a barrier to mass Linux adoption.
if we want more people on Linux let's normalize not having to use the command line for everything.
That is not the barrier. Most people stick to defaults and don't know how to install an OS. When any person switches, they will try to learn an adapt. If it is a shitty experience, they will switch back to defaults. Updating your system through command line is not a shitty experience.
Some of the gen zers I come across can't even double click an icon on PC.
There's no reason not to have an update button somewhere.
Absolutely but it is not easy. It needs to have several layers of abstraction by hiding what packages are being updated and auto approving themselves without prompting for password. There should be an automatic rollback mechanism in place in case an update goes bad. Some programs will need to auto-update themselves as users would expect like google chrome, firefox β which I donβt think we currently have other than steam. Otherwise if a person skips an update, they will leave their system vulnerable to the security bugs in browsers.
That is not the barrier.
who said there is only one barrier?
they will try to learn an[d] adapt
you will, sure, but no not everyone will. think less on tech savvy people and more on those that know that "the Internet is the big blue e when I turn on the computer (their monitor)"
those people outnumber us tech savvy individuals at least two-to-one and they deserve an OS that is easier to use then memorizing command line commands
Only tech savvy people will actually install an OS. Unless you put a βInstall OSβ button on the keyboard most people will never switch. So they will probably never use Linux because the idea of switching defaults is scary because it is not βofficially supportedβ by the manufacturer. Using the terminal is not a big deal. Most people can learn and adapt very easily, itβs not rocket science. The official defaults mindset is a barrier.
If we want Linux to grow, we need it to be installed by default on major hardware.
deserve an OS that is easier to use
Mint, Zorin, Ubuntu. They exist and have existed for a long time. They simply are not the default OS on any major piece of hardware.