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[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 181 points 3 weeks ago (33 children)

After running away from her first marriage (she was married at 13). She finally got a divorce and then was told to marry her cousin who was literally coming out of prison.

How can someone care so little for their own kids. Absolutely vile.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 124 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

For the same reason that American Christians would beat a gay person to death and then argue the gay panic defense in court.

They've been raised to believe that these made-up rules for their imaginary friend are a more important consideration than the reality right in front of them.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 weeks ago

And gay hate is even explicitly laid out in the quran. It’s not a “fringe” thing in the least.

[–] Bananskal@nord.pub 16 points 3 weeks ago

I would still feel sad that I had to kill my daughter to uphold those rules... Not fucking dance in the street. Unless it's also in the rules: "and you'll like it". 🤪

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[–] TAG@lemmy.world 144 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

The headline is misleading. The article is even worse.

The girl was not killed for refusing to marry. The girl ran away from home over the marriage (the strategy had worked for her to get out of her first marriage, at age 13). She was caught by a neighbor who did something bad to her (she did not want to say what and her family did not want to hear it). When her family found her 3 days later, they killed her for hiding at the neighbor's house (despite the fact that she was taken there unwillingly).

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 65 points 3 weeks ago

That's the amount of control over women that American conservatives dream of.

[–] sbbq@lemmy.zip 59 points 3 weeks ago

That is horrific.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 44 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Women in Iraq have been treated like absolute dirt and their literacy rates have plumeted from 99% under Saddam to around 50% last time I checked.

The breakdown of law and order is a direct result of American and Israeli interference and overthrow of Saddam after a decade of sanctions in the 90s.

Israel has been trying to crush Iraq for much longer and wanted it to be a failed state since the 1970s. Prior to Saddam even. This is the fate they want for all Arab countries.

[–] Nautalax@lemmy.world 70 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I was curious and looked up adult women literacy rates for women in Iraq and this shows 64% literacy rate for women with 15+ years age in 2000 and 78% in 2021 for the same category. For female youths aged 15-24 it rose from 80% to 91% over the same time period (though in the intervening period that did indeed drop to 72-73% in their stats during the chaos of the Iraq War).

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago

It's great when people bring the receipts and take the time to source a comment. Seriously, thank you.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

and this shows 64% literacy rate for women with 15+ years age in 2000 and 78% in 2021 for the same category

It's a very thin data set. One entry for 2000. Nothing beforehand. Then nothing for 12 years that just happen to occur during the height of invasion and mass displacement of the population.

Wikipedia would suggest the literacy rate was high prior to 2000. After the invasion, there's very mixed data, with high enrollment rates conbined with high dropout and grade repeat rates. But it's an article plagued with dead links, so...

I don't think it's controversial to say the war and mass displacement resulted in declining standards for education.

[–] Nautalax@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

It’s a very thin data set. One entry for 2000. Nothing beforehand. Then nothing for 12 years that just happen to occur during the height of invasion and mass displacement of the population.

I’m happy to see any data you have, that’s why I looked because 99% seemed incredibly high and the drop to 50% horrible and I wanted to check out that data. I agree this is sparse though it does ultimately come from UNESCO. There is a point on the 15-24 year old female youth graph for 2006 which is in the middle of that and another on 2011, which were the 72-73% I acknowledged. A decline of 8% for the youth until it started recovering in 2012 onward is what this particular source gives.

Wikipedia would suggest the literacy rate was high prior to 2000. After the invasion, there’s very mixed data, with high enrollment rates conbined with high dropout and grade repeat rates. But it’s an article plagued with dead links, so…

Where that Wikipedia article says “literacy levels were high” you can see that it also links to links to World Bank Open Data - the same source I used - except unsuccessfully. I would disagree that it was high based on World Bank Open Data though. If you look up global 15+ year old women’s literacy rates, the global average in 2000 was 76% so 64% in Iraq looks kind of bad comparatively.

I don’t think it’s controversial to say the war and mass displacement resulted in declining standards for education

I agree and that matches up with the drop in literacy rates for young women (whose ongoing education you would expect to be more affected by war in eight years of their childhood than for the adults). I was commenting just with respect to the stats because I was surprised.

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[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago

No they only want Palestine bro. Just one more bro.

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[–] ameen272@thelemmy.club 39 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

As an Iraqi, I feel like I need to address some extremely serious inaccuracies in the article:

  1. The Nine year-old marriage thing: This lasted less than a month and was cancelled due to the sheer amount of protest against it. I know, that's still unbelieavable how it even reached Iraq in the first place. But this case happened far after the law was cancelled and is illegal, the family's lewd business might have been a reason(?) Although sadly women's rights are still limited.

  2. The case is even worse than the article interprets it: The man did not hide her in dirt, he literally dumped her in mud in the middle of a garbage place. And the police only arrested him after the evidence was very undeniable (They were allegedly bribed).

  3. The underage marriage and woman's rights dismissing protest: This was a very small protest and many protestors there got their fair share of violence.

NOTE: I live in Baghdad, other cities might have different laws, but this article mentioned the incident was in Baghdad too, so maybe it was either not very recent, or maybe that lewd law got re-implemented and I just don't know it yet.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

thank you for adding context from a local,. one of the great things about this place

[–] ameen272@thelemmy.club 9 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you so much! I honestly expected to be in the negative score with people not believing me, but wow...

Maybe Lemmy is less harsh than Reddit afterall.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Thankfully, we seem to be intent on ensuring our environment makes us extinct.

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[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The YPJ needs to be everywhere

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 19 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

I had not heard of the YPJ before. Remarkable group!

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[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 weeks ago

Words cannot describe the hatred I feel for people that hurt kids.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Over 260k people killed in the Iraq War, mostly civilians, over $1 trillion spent, over nearly 9 years, just so we could have another Afghanistan.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 17 points 3 weeks ago (21 children)

And then these same monsters get all butthurt that there are people who hate them

[–] UltraMagnus@startrek.website 14 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I think there are cultural differences that we ought to tolerate and be mindful of our biases on (how you prepare food, the clothes you wear, difference in manners, accents, language, etc.) and there are things which are universal evils (murdering children for not marrying).

It is unfair to ascribe the latter to all people belonging to a particular culture (the "you people" comment), since "universal" evil goes both ways - all people should consider it evil, but it is not unique to a particular people. A strange duality. Reminds me of the dad who "accidentally" shot and killed his daughter in Texas after an argument about Trump and was never investigated.

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[–] Naive@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Damn! on the one hand, humans are doing innovation in science and technology and on the other hand, such barbaric things still exist in this world.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It exists everywhere but in differents forms. In east it is family sanctioned rape of children in west it is money sanctioned rape of children. Common denominator is humans.

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[–] CyroSignal@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

May she rest in peace...

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