There have been fake gamers - they aren't common though. I didn't even know if they're still out there streaming. They're the ones who would put on games, typically idle or paused, just to technically be gaming while just jiggling their tits for subs.
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As I recall the reason it seems like it's only dudes online is because women gamers hide or stay in safe spaces, as they are used to attacks from incels and other haters.
Can confirm. I love video games, but I don't care for online games. I know the moment I speak (or dare to have a feminine username), there'll be a deluge of comments making a big deal about there being a girl in the chat and I'd be unable to play without either dumb comments or questions of if I'm single. No thanks, I'd rather game alone.
Tokyogurl: The star who faked her career and set women’s esports back
To say fake gamer girls don't exist is a braindumb statement. Just because gatekeeping incels exist doesn't mean that fake gamer girls don't exist. Like, a large majority of Twitch is "gamer girl fantasy lets chat" streams. Anyone can see how it's great from a marketing standpoint to be the novel and fetishized "gamer girl". It does well for a target audience.
How are you gonna say fake gamer girls don't exist, like SSSniperwolf is right there. Belle Delphine exists.
I don't know why more girls aren't represented in pro level play. It's probably because of the toxic nature of gamers (probably). Because everyone of them will be compared to Tokyogurl, to SSSniperwolf, to Pokemane. Girls who sold out being good at playing for being sexy while playing.
I was also literally going to say SSSniperWolf lol.
Yeah, being a pick me by way of pretending to love all the video games, to put on a show for the boys, ... while in actuality just being a cut throat sociopathic narcissist...
pretty big niche.
Literally cosplaying as female video game characters is a substantial niche in male targeted porn now, ... its a way of appealing to an audience.
The roughly equivalent counterpart would be the performatively feminist nice guy ally type dude. Apparently another term for this is 'matcha male'.
They share in common that they superficially adopt the aesthic/performance of what their target demo seems to like. It's cynical, not genuine; affect as strategy and tactics, not authentic.
Obviously there are plenty of women who really do love video games, obviously there are plenty of men who are real feminists.
But there are plenty of fakes as well.
Do you know about any other "fakes"?
Pokimane comes to mind?
Amouranth?
I mean, I literally quit using or visiting Twitch years ago, because... a huge chunk of it was women obviously leveraging their sex appeal, while playing video games, or enaging with the culture around video games, to literally grow a cult following.
Of course... I'd say there were a fair number of guys that did the male version of this too.. Dr Disrespect comes to mind.
The male version being 'bro I'm so cool and badass and awesome and everyone else sucks because I'm sooo good at video games'.
These people are in love with themselves far more than they are with video games.
Pirate Software, there's another male one!
Probably bc of how toxic the industry is from both management and the players. I’ve seen so many accounts of harassment, abuse, and exploitation.
The guitar world has those phony women, too. They dress real sexy, and play a solo on the guitar or bass. A few are pretty good, some are awful, but most are just faking it.
Grace Bowers is the lone exception. She started posting when she was about 14, and since was pretty good, and really cute, she was strongly encouraged. When she hit 18, she went pro in a big way, even though she still had a long way to go to be a true pro level player.
She's gotten a lot better, probably because she's met and played with EVERYBODY by now. Imagine how good you'd get if every day you got another guitar lesson from another legend.
Sir, I fear you are forgetting that you are not as Cool As Kim Deal.
IE, such a cool bassist that other bands write songs about how cool she is.
Twitch is loaded with them, as much as I like this meme.
Yeah the goal was misinterpreted. Its not to "impress" them its to get them to donate money, because sex sells when your target audience is gooners.
Also this user just outed themselves as a fucking idiot by just calling gaming in general a "loser nerd hobby" as if they werent posting on tumblr....
this user just outed themselves as a fucking idiot by just calling gaming in general a “loser nerd hobby”
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They seem to do pretty well, good for them :)
So many people discovered you can get more attention complaining about other gamers than actually playing the damned things.
Doesn't help that gaming itself has been stuffed with AI slop and GACHA crap.
You can't play Pong without going through ten pay walls and a hundred scams.
I think SsniperWolf on YouTube was also a fake gamer girl.
I believe at the height of her popularity she was having her boyfriend or manager or whoever actually play the game while she would just sit and watch and act like she was playing it.
Video games are a pretty hard thing to fake being into. It's just downstream of imbeciles who can't imagine people are into their "space" without liking exactly the same objects in that space as them (same thing happens with fitness folk, history people, filmbros)
So this goes two ways I think. There are dumbasses who think that any girl who isn't amazing at games is just faking it, rather than them just being a normal casual+ player. Then there are some egirl weird cultural-appropriation style gamergirl stolen valor thing when a girl borrows the aesthetics and online lingo (and memes etc) without actually playing at all... Idk. It's definitely a thing.
With that said, I've never heard the term gamergirl be used derogatory, personally; most of the guys I heard talk about a gamergirl were talking like they just got an SSS tier gacha pull just by meeting someone of the opposite gender who shared their interests...
So maybe this is some fake gamerboy chudding or the incels who use it that way, and I just haven't been exposed much? But it's not hard to imagine since girls take a lot of shit for just existing. The spaces I'm in are pretty chill these days and MMORPGs were always better than FPS,... The "no girls on the internet" thing persists (with some understandable reasons) but haven't heard anything about sandwiches or kitchens in a while which is nice.
Gamer girl was more of an insult in the 90s-2010s. Gaming is still full of misogyny but the gatekeeping is a lot less prominent. It was really bad back then.
I'm a girl who plays games. It's still pretty bad. If I said I was a girl, I wasn't. If I got on voice, someone was playing for me. I refused to use video. Now, apparently, I'm a dude playing with a voice mod.
Sorry if it sounded like I was downplaying how it is now, I swear that wasn't my intent! There is certainly no shortage of assholes.
I was just saying that early on it was like EVERY girl got dogpiled EVERY time they spoke. I've had women in my gaming group since TFC was current and it wasn't until maybe 2016 (overwatch) when they felt comfortable openly speaking in game.
Oh no worries, I didn't take it like that. Just saying in my experience it's just a different kind of bad. People can be more subtle, but it's still there.
To your point - maybe what has changed is the amount of assholes but the amount of people willing to call out that behavior. Losers are a lot less likely to get on their soapbox when attempts at sexism sometime result in half the lobby turning on them.
Manchildren are happy to shit talk someone they think is "lesser" but tremble in their boots when a man stands up to them.
This doesn't affect the ones with inflated egos but a good portion of them are insecure as hell.
I agree. The open dialogue about sexism makes it a less safe space for those kinds of people. Unfortunately the subtle sexism can be a lot more frustrating. It's just less in open chat and more in dms.
Can't help with the DM part but what's some subtle stuff to look out for? Genuinely asking as I might not know to notice. Give me some stuff (if you want) so I've got relevant oneliners in the bag to throw at em lol
It's all so unique and individual it's hard to say. Super appreciate you asking, though.
A lot of guys have become ridiculously nice once they found out I'm a chick, but quickly became controlling or spiteful when I didn't reciprocate or want to chat with them outside the game.
Sometimes they just fuck me over but have a convenient excuse. Like refusing to heal or wait an extra five seconds after a spell/ability/whatever is charged for me to die first, then kill the boss/pancake monster/whatever.
It's the same in games as real life, they'll find little ways to make a woman's day worse but always have some kind of excuse. It seems legit until it becomes a pattern.
Then there are some egirl weird cultural-appropriation style gamergirl stolen valor thing when a girl borrows the aesthetics and online lingo (and memes etc) without actually playing at all… Idk. It’s definitely a thing
It is definitely a thing tbh, I'm glad that people have called it out. It's not a thing that's affected my dating life, however much that counts for
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