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[–] Major_Tsiom@fedia.io 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

National pride is idiotic. Where you were born is just what happened. You had no say in or control over the matter. You are proud of something that happened that you had absolutely no hand in. Idiotic.

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Could say the same thing about LGBT+ pride, that's also something that happened to you

[–] o1011o@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

The pride bit isn't about being queer full stop, it's about having the courage to be openly queer in a society that might try to kill you for it. It's about reversing the shame they attempt to force on us.

[–] AuroraZzz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It's a little bit different if you're getting attacked all the time (as what usually happens to LBGTQ+ people). I think pride in a nation or a group of people that you belong to is fine as long as you are fighting for something greater. For example the people of Ukraine coming together nationally to fight off a foreign invader

[–] Major_Tsiom@fedia.io -1 points 1 day ago

Well, pride is one of the 7 deadly sins, so I guess everyone should tone that shit down. I’m not religious, but I see where that is coming from and I agree.

[–] jdr@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

What if you're from a small country like Tuvalu or Vatican. Then you don't have so many fellowmen and your pride is all the more worthy.

There's also left wing nationalism, such as Catalunya and Scotland, and also liberation movements.

They are very different than right wing nationalism though.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Imagine not understanding that you can be proud of several things at once.

What a looser.

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

When does the quote say you cant be proud of multiple things? Just that national pride is the cheapest form of pride and pointing out that people should have more than just national pride that drives them.