Realistically…. How many kids (under 18 in the US) are using vpns for porn? Like this is definitely just another ‘think of the children!’ Deflection to pass horrible spy policy.
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I don’t understand. You can just google “porn” and go down the results until a site doesn’t immediately bombard you with an ID verification system. How hard is it? There’s an entire fucking world of servers under varying legislation to check. Meanwhile Utah makes up 0.000000000001% of that structure. Utah is in lala land.
Eh, I remember kids using proxy sites to get around school internet filters when I was 14. And now that virtually every Youtuber has a VPN sponsorship, I think that 14-18 range of kids definitely has a sizable chunk who knows what a VPN is and what they could use it for...
I think in the case of Utah it’s something beyond just wanting to spy on people. I think the LDS(Mormon) church legitimately wants to stamp out porn all together among it’s members. The first step to that is of course, getting a comprehensive list of everyone viewing porn, via ID collection. Then hand that list over to the LDS church, who can name and shame members they find on it.
Now, they probably will not be able do this everywhere, but, in Utah, it is absolutely with in their power given how much power it has over the state government.
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Just need to tell Utah to go fuck themselves. If you don't operate somewhere you don't need to respect their laws. The fuck are they going to do about it? Got no property there for them to take action against.
Get a VPS in Hong Kong. Set up your own point-to-point VPN (OpenVPN, wireguard tunnel) on it. Is the Chinese government spying on you via the VPS stack itself? Sure, probably. But they'll laugh their assess off at a US govt. request to turn over that data.
Why Hong Kong over Iceland or Switzerland?
They may not have (publicly known) info sharing agreements with the US, but they're not adversaries either. China is.
I've noticed a sudden spike in the number of websites that send me into a Cloudflare spiral whenever I have my VPN active. I think we might see this happening on a lot more sites soon, unfortunately.
I got an idea for where they can put it
There's absolutely no reason my ISP needs my browsing history.
Don't know what ISP you have or what VPN you're using, but it's just a transfer of trust. Whoever your VPN provider is, they now see everything your ISP previously saw. I host my own VPN servers when I need one, and even then I still have to trust the datacenter operators to not snoop on my DNS requests (almost everything else tends to be encrypted with SSL/TLS by default nowadays)
Also, the "Private" in VPN is about it being for private use, not about privacy
almost everything else tends to be encrypted with SSL/TLS by default nowadays
FYI DNS supports DNS-over-HTTPS. You still need to trust the DNS server, but you can run one yourself at least if you're worried about it.
Do people not know about Quad9? DoH & Quic
https://quad9.net/news/blog/quad9-enables-dns-over-http-3-and-dns-over-quic/
I mean, I'm using Mullvad. I don't have the hardware to host my own VPN in a van, so this is my best approach. Could I host Wireguard locally? Sure. With access to alternating-current power.
When I said I host my own, I mean on cheap VPS that cost me way less than 6$/month.
But yeah, mullvad is pretty much the only commercial VPN provider I'd trust more than my ISP
I would counter that I'm saving $1,500 a month by living in a van. As a cost, the VPN is a rounding error.
My point was never about the cost anyway. It was about VPNs (commercial or hosted on a cheap VPS) still needing you to trust a third party, and also that the P in VPN does not mean "privacy"