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[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago

Probably because the solution would be easy, but would lose them AIPAC bribes.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

"We successfully failed to win. The AIPAC money must keep coming in."

It rhymes and they're slime.

[–] KelvarCherry@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 12 hours ago

..bb-bUt look at everything but Democrats did win. Donor money, trips to Israel, lobbying dinners, suspiciously-accurate stock market moves... You need to re-shape your mindset and focus on the incremental gains!

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

TLDR: Because they don't give a fuck about you or me or anyone who isn't a donor.

Repubs want to hurt you. Dems don't care that you exist. We need a third party (as if that's a new idea).

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Stop fucking talking about 3rd party, that's throwing your vote away.

Besides, the tea party proved you don't need another party, simply primary and take over one of the main ones.

Progressives have already started, we need to keep the energy going.

More Mandani's less Schumers and we'll get what we want.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

More Mandani’s

Ok, this person is a fucking troll trying to sew division on the Left. Zorhan Mamdani proved that young people want progressive politics. This person doesn't know how to spell his name and they're claiming he's the reason we need to keep supporting Dems and "take over" the party when it's clearly already captured by the corporate class.

I think this person might be a right-wing plant trying to sabotage Leftist solidarity. They (the right) play dirty. Watch out. Don't become divided (said the person calling someone a plant; the irony is not lost on me).

Footnote: a person who genuinely cares about politics enough to want to take over the Dems with progressives would know (or at least look up) how to spell the name of the person they were using in their argument. A person who only wants to sew division might be stupid and not know they should double-check the spelling.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago* (last edited 30 minutes ago)

The fuck are you talking about?? Sowing division by arguing DO NOT SPLIT THE VOTE INTO 3RD PARTY???

You are either a troll or a moron.

Excuse me for fucking misspelling a fucking name on my phone, like it fucking matters. The point isn't about MAMDANI but that we need to promote more politicans like him in the democratic party, literarily the antithesis of corporate Democrats.

Don't call people trolls just because you can't read.

[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 2 points 1 hour ago

Uh, while he may be a fucking troll, it doesn't mean he isn't right. He's trying to divide the left by telling us to not... checks notes... divide? Primarying non-progressive dems is the best bet if you don't want to have a republican majority for the interim time period between starting a third party and the dems giving up and going home.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world -1 points 19 minutes ago

You know what makes me lose hope? It's not Republicans pushing fascism and corruption. It's not the Democrats being spineless and ineffective as a wet rag.

It's comments like this, showing that the people who should be upset and fighting against this mess are filled with the dumbest motherfuckers alive.

"Someone say something I don't agree with? Must be right wing troll!!!1!!"

Like damn man. Can you just fucking not? It's fucking embarrassing to be sharing the same space as people with takes this idiotic.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Quick: who's got Mayor Mamdani on their team? THOSE guys seem to car about people.

[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 hours ago

The guys who refused to endorse him.

[–] KelvarCherry@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

the Working Families Party is the best hope USAmericans have. Unlike the Green Party, they're focused on building up their party from the small positions, and proving themselves that way.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

The same party that brought you Fetterman and is whitewashing war criminal for fun Planter as an anti-imperialist?

No, no they're not. They're focused on branding centrist/right ghouls as far left to infiltrate and hinder actual leftist progress.

[–] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Quick: who’s got Mayor Mamdani on their team? THOSE guys seem to car about people.

The political equivalent of having a black friend just dropped.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 1 hour ago

Don't let them divide us. I just (five minutes ago) responded to what I think is a pretty clear plant (see misspelling of Mamdami's name). Whether someone isn't "Left-enough" to you or whatever, if they want to help people and want to beat the Repubs, try to bring them along.

There's the trope that Leftists fight each other and the right have solidarity. The first part is true. The second part is only true in that they unite around hate and fear and bigotry. That's why the orange dickbag kept firing his cabinet in the first admin. And though he brought a bunch of sycophantic ass-kissers this time, he's finally removing them too.

Let's work together to put these assholes in prison.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 27 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The Democratic Party isn’t there to “win”, it’s there to act as a honeypot to attract and neutralize progressives, and to make sure that the “Overton Window” of American politics never moves left.

[–] TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

For the visual learners out there.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Many Americans are aware of the Ratchet Effect but they’re reluctant to acknowledge that it’s deliberate and coordinated, instead asserting that it’s a function of the “donor class” in the Democratic Party having a different perspective on how political priorities should be assigned.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 hours ago

It's irrelevant if it's coordinated or not. Alignment of interests gives the same results as overt conspiracy.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Just reading the headline reminded me of how disgusting the amount of money in US politics is. It's probably spreading to other places too.

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[–] MrErr@piefed.world 5 points 17 hours ago

So far the only reason that they would want to keep this a secret is AIPAC.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 67 points 1 day ago

Because they don't intend to change anything and they don't want to get called out on repeating the same exact mistakes.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago

We all know the reason. It condemns their own shit neoliberal policies and posturing, and they want to continue to pretend that their problem is how they sell the snake oil rather the fact that nobody wants fucking snake oil.

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