this post was submitted on 04 May 2026
552 points (97.9% liked)

Flippanarchy

2411 readers
1256 users here now

Flippant Anarchism. A lighter take on social criticism with the aim of agitation.

Post humorous takes on capitalism and the states which prop it up. Memes, shitposting, screenshots of humorous good takes, discussions making fun of some reactionary online, it all works.

This community is anarchist-flavored. Reactionary takes won't be tolerated.

Don't take yourselves too seriously. Serious posts go to !anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Rules


  1. If you post images with text, endeavour to provide the alt-text

  2. If the image is a crosspost from an OP, Provide the source.

  3. Absolutely no right-wing jokes. This includes "Anarcho"-Capitalist concepts.

  4. Absolutely no redfash jokes. This includes anything that props up the capitalist ruling classes pretending to be communists.

  5. No bigotry whatsoever. See instance rules.

  6. This is an anarchist comm. You don't have to be an anarchist to post, but you should at least understand what anarchism actually is. We're not here to educate you.

  7. No shaming people for being anti-electoralism. This should be obvious from the above point but apparently we need to make it obvious to the turbolibs who can't control themselves. You have the rest of lemmy to moralize.


Join the matrix room for some real-time discussion.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I don't know. Part of me thinks even though I don't want to. That a majority of people are just evil, and aligned with evil as part of their own morality. I hope it isn't true. I don't want to believe it's true.

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Idk about most people but most Americans are definitely evil

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Idk about people but it's certainly true of most people in all democracies allied with Israel.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

These movies are not exactly subtle about which side is the "good guys" and which side is the "bad guys".

Who do you side with in a much more ambiguous movie like Apocalyspe Now or Sicario?

Or, if you're like most movie watchers, you watched Zero Dark Thirty and sided with the American commandos. You watched The Hurt Locker and sided with the American bomb disposal experts. You watched Argo and sided with the CIA.

I'd guess there are a lot more pro-American movies where the typical audience sides with the Americans than there are anti-fascist movies where the audience sides with antifa. In fact, a lot of people who watched Starship Troopers didn't get that it was an anti-fascist movie at all and took it all at face value siding with the humans against the aliens.

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 5 points 12 hours ago

TBF, I was like 14 when Starship Troopers came out and it wasn’t until the hormones wore off that I realized there was a message in that film that wasn’t boobs and bug guts. #teamdizzy

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Exactly, people are constantly bombarded with pro-imperialist propaganda from the entire MSM spectrum, and no one is immune to propaganda. The media still don't call the genocide in Palestine a genocide, they wrote fuck all about East Timor compared to the similar violence in Cambodia that was committed by the "bad guys", we're inundated with "BuT aT wHaT coST"-style headlines about the designated enemy state du jour. How is anyone supposed to make heads or tails of any of this without spending a significant amount of time actually educating themselves on what is going on and unlearning the years and years of western propaganda they've had to endure?

Try forming a decent opinion while watching star wars with every scene interspersed with talking heads explaining to you exactly why the rebels are terrorists and that the empire is just defending itself. Also you don't get to see any scene from the perspective of the rebels. Did you know the jedi put babies in ovens?

[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Real life is not like fiction. If you fuck up in irl you end up dead or in prison

[–] Alandrus_Sun@ttrpg.network 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone wants to talk a big game. But, most people don't want that fight.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

There's a selection bias in effect, on several fronts.

  • People who want a fight may not actually know who they are fighting or why. Consequently, you get a bunch of idiots and assholes piling into ICE or enlisting in the US military, because they've been pickled on reactionary propaganda and convinced this will liberate them from the Liberal Fascism that Jonah Goldberg told them they were living under.

  • People who fight and lose aren't around to keep fighting. They end up in prisons or hospitals or broke or dead. You don't see them doing anything to fight actively anymore.

  • Tons of resistance efforts and opposition organizing goes totally unreported. In part this is a form of government/corporate censorship, shaped by the priorities of reactionary national media. In part, there simply isn't anything "newsworthy" to report. Who is going to tune into the "Minutes of the most recent Food Not Bombs" organizing event? Who is going to subscribe to a newspaper dedicated to covering street-corner protests and the sermons of local church groups and the odd Facebook meetup of twelve enthusiastic but aimless wanna-be activists?

  • Opposition is expensive and not terribly profitable. Getting a higher profile requires materials and labor. If you don't have them, we don't see you. By contrast, going with the establishment (or the Loyal Opposition) can be both lucrative and status-raising. Easier to be a Megan McArdle or Dana Milbank writing for the Liberal Moderate Sensible Resistance than an Ashton P. Woods or Kat Abughazaleh, running outsider campaigns entirely on local profiles and raw charisma.

In the end, its easy to assume opposition organizations and activists don't exist simply because you're not in a position to see them. It's easy to feel like you're part of an organization that's operating as a lonely last hold out, because you're in a dark forest of misinformation and occluded dissent.

Part of finding like-minded people has to be getting yourself out there to be seen. Going to rallies and mingling with people, going to large public events and keeping your eyes/ears open. Going to fucking Church - I know you're going to say you hate it but I'm sorry, that's where a lot of organizing has always happened in this country and still does. A lot of it just means going out and meeting more people and making more friends.

Shit is happening you can't see. Shit is happening that you'll never know about. That's the nature of any resistance movement. The French Resistance wasn't doing block walks and Pride Parades in the middle of the German Occupation. The NAACP spent a long time organizing in basements before it became a cohesive national group. We've still got a significant portion of our LGBTQ population that has to "come out of the closet", because it's extremely hazardous to your physical, mental, and financial well-being to be queer before you turn 30.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 4 points 15 hours ago

It’s easy to feel like you’re part of an organization that’s operating as a lonely last hold out, because you’re in a dark forest of misinformation and occluded dissent.

Very much this. As was said in Andor:

"Random acts of insurrection are occurring constantly throughout the galaxy. There are whole armies, battalions that have no idea that they’ve already enlisted in the cause.

Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward."

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

But if you fuck up in fiction, your series can get cancelled.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

If you, the author, fuck up, yes. But characters fuck up all the time and shows are extremely popular as a result. Look at Breaking Bad!

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] sickday@fedia.io 79 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Morpheus explains it to Neo in the movie

You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The word "matrix" comes from old french "matrice" meaning "womb".

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 6 points 17 hours ago

What the FUCK

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 16 hours ago

This is some 14andThisIsDeep ngl

[–] JustTheWind@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I get the sentiment but this is called an appeal to fiction. It really isn't sound logic

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

“Appeal to fiction” is not an argument fallacy when the discussion is about IRL events, even if using fictional stories as a tool. Appeals to fiction are about written fictional stories and the events within them.

That said,

Making the choice that your heroes are the ones fighting an obviously bad opponent yet in life deciding that the antagonist is the one you support really is mental gymnastics and hypocritical.

Unless they secretly side with the Empire and just lie to everyone that their hero is on the Rebel side.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The main reason is that while there are people who are willing to politically fight for the right thing, there are very few people who are willing to die for the right thing.

Luigi is one of those and even he has affluence.

We need 100+ Luigi's before we see the average person willing to risk their life.

Think about it this way: what would happen right now if Luigi were to die by the state? If he can't usher systematic change, what chance does my life have?

This isn't just online. While I'm not going to openly talk about what forms of resistance my local group has taken on, very few people are willing to do more than what we've been doing and it's frustrating.

Trump and the GOP are literally running the fascism playbook and we only have a few more chapters left until he has the ability to fully dismantle democracy.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] outandinburger@ttrpg.network 44 points 1 day ago (34 children)

We see it, there just isn’t a “resistance” to join that plans to do anything remotely close to those movies.

[–] squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, that's the point. The resistance in movies is always a very professional, single-minded and effective operation with perfect logistics and a common goal. It's easy to imagine being a part of such an "activist power fantasy" where everything is smooth sailing until the world revolution while getting cheered on all the way.

While IRL activism and organizing is messy and tedious. It's hard to feel like a hero when the political landscape is a confusing mess, there is no clear strategy on what to do next and the group you joined can't agree on when to do the next coffee break.

[–] Mountainaire@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

perfect

Someone hasn't seen Andor nor Rogue One!

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] inkblade@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

True...we need a resistance.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

yes there is lol. there are many of them, communists are everywhere.

[–] outandinburger@ttrpg.network 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve never seen a communist on Lemmy.ml. Just a bunch or propaganda ;)

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

yup. and we are commenting under propaganda. ;)

load more comments (31 replies)
[–] GoldAxolotl@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

i've watched slave wars and sided with master of this gym to corrupt his mind and watch even bigger amounts of slaves slaughtering each other, drawning this world in pussy juice in the name of da great bitch cunt goddess of big black tree many of you saw in dreams because of fsb constantly microwaving synapses with radio ~holocaust never really fucking ended~ waves, which give immediate wet erection to commie-nazis, while at the same time slowly killing them [99,9% of all documented cases].

Also i've watched infinity train (on rule34) and liked it a lot. Looking for cool movies to watch.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think there are mainly two reasons for this:

  1. In fiction, you’re simply not personally affected, so you don’t have to face any adversity or negative consequences. It costs nothing to see yourself as part of the revolutionary movement, and you don’t put yourself in danger.

  2. Apparently, many people simply don’t want to admit what monsters their leaders really are, even though it’s actually obvious. This is the result of decades of propaganda, I think: The U.S., for example, has always seen itself as the friendly superpower that brings freedom and democracy to the world. Now that it is obvious even to the biggest idiot that this has always been a lie - since the regime has abandoned the facade - people are looking for other explanations to maintain the worldview they have long held to be true - such as the excuse that the current U.S. president is being controlled by evil forces from other countries (Russia/Israel) and therefore does not represent his own, indeed so righteous, country at all.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Listen as cypher groans about life in the resistance. Constant fear and anxiety from the bots, shitty food bricks etc. We all like to pretend we are tough as nails and can take any hardships, that attitude changes quickly, especially when you can see and even manipulate the alternative life in the matrix.

I think there was a point where cypher wanted to fight and be a genuine part of the resistance, the stress eventually got to him. How many "chosen ones" before neo did he see come and die? Eventually it seems hopeless and he could probably game the matrix just right to have a good, albeit artifical, life for himself. It would be like having an option to go back in time and buy amazon/apple/nividia stocks at just the right moment.

Resistance is often painted as easier than it is. It sugar coats the losses. It makes losing 25 people to kill 5 agressors a "victory". The actors stay fit and strong even if their characters are getting 1 meal a day.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Seriously, thank you. Those who are puzzled why everyday middle class Americans aren’t rushing to join an anarchist revolution ought to look at how the resistance is has been going in Iran this year, even before the US attacked.

Middle class Americans may struggle to afford the things they had a few decades ago, but they’re still a long way from willing to risk sniper fire in the day and bombings at night.

A good friend of mine is Palestinian and he spent time in Syria during the war. He told me what it was like to have bombs going off near his house. To have pieces of shrapnel fly past his face and embed themselves into the wall. He lives here in Canada now. He wants nothing to do with fighting in wars. He just wants to make a life for himself and his family.

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

well, reality is simply more complicated than fiction.

in reality there is no clear good guys and bad guys. if you see it that way then you are absolutely oversimplifying something.

there can be victims and aggressors, but that doesn't make the victims "good guys". for example, i actually despise so much of what the Palestinian government represents, and yet, they are undeniably the victims. that does not make them good guys.

that concept is too much for most people to contend with. many people, especially conservatives, never grew out of needing everything to be cast in black and white. they can see someone kicked and abused and denigrated their whole life, and still only see them as "bad" for escaping that torment with drugs.

unfortunately there are many resistance movements i could join right now in america, but they're all the wrong kind. they are confederate wannabes that just want the chance to shoot gay and brown people.

if life were a simple as "join the resistance" being generally good advice i would need to be a screaming racist homophobe to do it. i think I'd honestly prefer being killed by the fascists.

[–] WaxRhetorical@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There are absolutely some very clear bad guys in this world, and our history. Most people don't fall in that category, doesn't mean they don't exist.

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

the point is more that entire nations or peoples can't be unilaterally good or bad. imperialism is bad. it is evil. it is a rot upon this world. the real empires that actually did it were largely ancient cultures that existed long before and continue to exist today. to say that Japan is evil for their ww2 era imperialism and that nothing else counts would be an incredibly reductive and cynical worldview.

real people are also complicated.

don't forget that you only ever know any of these leaders public images. you don't actualy know what they are like. I'm sure there are people in your life who you make excuses for because they are meaningful to you.

ceaser was incredibly beloved for plundering his neighbors and giving that wealth directly to his people. he did so much good and so much bad. to try and cast all of those things into a single word is madness.

ultimately, i just don't agree with one word descriptions of things as broad as people and cultures. there's always more to it. people can be selfish, greedy, caring, helpful, many many things. but "bad" and "good" are just too simple.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago

Most people in all of those stories just tried to live their lives. The story follows the few that didn't.

In real life, even if there is a resistance, the connection between those that could join/assist and the general populace, is blocked by a constant surveillance and enforcement state. When groups start to form, they're arrested because the act of organizing draws attention to them. Think of all the 'terrorist' groups you know. You know about them, because they organized. Which put a target on them. Which is also what ends most resistance groups.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Because they've systematically dismantled the reward system that used to be in place for trying.

[–] alapakala@quokk.au 5 points 19 hours ago (8 children)

What I found funnier is that these fictional people armed themselves. They violently opposed their oppressors. But many people are still brainwashed that peaceful protest, or single day protests, will end the oppressions.

You're supposed to make your actions unavoidable to ignore. The oppressors has to consider you a threat to even begin dialogue.

load more comments (8 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›