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Last summer we hired a company to build a patio and level out our backyard. The patio itself is fine but ever since the leveling work was done, water pools across the entire yard after every rain. It takes days to dry out and some spots stay muddy for over a week. My wife added sand to the worst spots and wants to plant a shrub there thinking it will absorb the water but I honestly doubt that's going to fix anything. From what I understand the problem is that the leveling compacted the soil so much that water can't drain through it anymore. And the yard is now basically flat with no slope to move the water anywhere. I've been reading about french drains, regrading to create a slope, and even something called a soakaway pit. But I have no idea which solution actually fits my situation or if I even need all of that. Has anyone dealt with this after having their yard leveled? What actually worked for you? Should I go back to the company that did the work or find someone who specializes in drainage? Any advice would be really appreciated because another rainy season is coming and I don't want to deal with a swamp in my backyard again.

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[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No one can be specific until they understand the context. You have three issues to clarify for a quality, helpful answer.

  1. Where can surface water runoff go? It's flat now so it goes nowhere, but if you sloped it gently like 1-2% grade, where would that slope put the water? Urban or rural? Are you on a hill or in a depression? Do you have existing drainage infrastructure nearby? E.g. ditches and storm sewers. Identify your neighbours surface water properties. Does their runoff flow onto your property or vice versa? Where is the water going and where should the water go.

  2. Can water penetrate the surface? You say it's overly compacted soil. What kind? Sand, clay, silty, loam? What is the surface? Grass? Shrubs? Options here include lawn areation. Preferably deep aeration. There are machines you can rent that are rollers covered in 1-2" hollow steel tubes that cut little plugs out of your lawn to reduce surface compaction and lets air and water in a little better. If your land is pooling, this won't be nearly enough, but its an essential step for part 3 below. Also plants, grass, shrubs help slow the flow of water, they absorb and transpire it and their root systems and annual cycles of decay turn mineral based ground into genuine soil. Soil's moisture absorbing qualities are defined primarily by its organic content within the matrix. Rich soil high in organic carbon looks like chocolate cake. It absorbs and drains well. If you have only mineral clay soils, you have the liner of a swimming pool. Either way, how deep is this surface layer? E.g. if its a water bowl for the first 2', but underneath the subsoil drains well, you can just ammend the surface and solve your problems.

  3. Where can water that penetrates the surface go? Take a 4' or longer length 1/4" steel tube and hammer it into the ground. Pull it up and check out the dirt plug you just made. What is the deeper soil made of. Sand drains well. Clay does not. Rock less so. Everything else is in between as per #2. You get little organic content the deeper you go because fewer roots can get there. Usually just big trees. Can water get into the spaces between particles? If not you need to fix this. But before you do, ask yourself, once the water get in this deep, where does it go? Creeks, rivers, drainage ditches, storm sewers. Your neighbour a urban triplex or a farmers field? What is their subsoil likely to be? How far down until bedrock?

Putting 1,2&3 together, a great, resilient system looks like this when rain falls.

A) gentle minimal rains land on vegetation like trees plants grass. The plants stop the water from even hitting the soil and it just evaporates off the improved surface area.

B) light rain does A, then trickles down to the surface where it is immediately absorbed by porous chocolate cake surface soils. Thirsty plants are happy. The soil both absorbs water and retains it so plants are happy between rains.

C) moderate rains first do A, then B, then C where the weight of more water on top pushes the water in the chocolate cake surface soils downward into the subsoil. Its well draining so its basically a sponge and can take huge amounts of water. It's also connected to neighbouring subsoils that also let water infiltrate and flow to a nearby creek, that then flows to anriver then on to a lake or ocean and its nobody' problem. Alternatively it goes through municipal storm sewers to the same end.

D) In very heavy or frequent rains, A,B,and C are maxed out and you have yet more water still do deal with. When this happens we are back to A. Surface runoff accumulates and now we are technically entering flood territory. A little surface run off is nothing to worry about. A lot is. Here is where your grading and elevation make all the difference. If the land is graded 1-2%, surface water flows downhill to whatever awaits it. Hopefully those storm sewers and creeks and watnot. If your property is on high ground you're in great shape relatively. You'll be the last to flood. If you are in the bottom of a hardpan bowl, put your swimsuit on, turn off the power and start emergency protocols.

If you managed to get through all this, feel free to give me your details and I can tailor some advice more specific to your situation. Feel free to dm me for specifics.

Edit: french drainage is one option, but you have to have the above context to know where the drains can put the water, or if there are better or cheaper options.

Source: lots of geotech in uni.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, to back to the company as ask what's going on. They may have missed something or didn't grade the ground properly.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

Grading the ground is not part of a project like that unless it is specified from the beginning and included in the quote.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

These people leveled your yard, and now it pools with water? Is that accurate? If so, those hardscapers fucked up bad. They shouldn't have been aiming for level; they should have been grading it away from your house at 2%. How old is the home? I have pretty good experience with french drains, grading, and water intrusion investigation. DM me and we can have a phone call to go over options.

Be aware: someone in your position is seen as a cash cow for basement dewatering systems and foundation repair. Dont trust any of these people if they haven't spent an hour looking at your house during a big rain. Only you have the capacity to get to root cause.

Correct on the compaction - it likely needs to be aerated aggressively.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

From what I understand the problem is that the leveling compacted the soil so much that water can’t drain through it anymore. And the yard is now basically flat with no slope to move the water anywhere.

Yep...

So there's one big choice to make before anything else:

Do you want to mitigate the damage, or try to rip the lawn up?

You always want a gentle slope away from your house. But flat doesn't have to flood, you can aerate the ground, which will help it get down past what's compacted. You may need more than just an aerator. You may need to put very small but deep holes.

As the new grass grows it will develop roots, which go deep and not only soak up water, but they allow paths for water to go down as well. And obviously break up compacted ground.

Even if you do absolutely nothing, it will keep getting better on its own.

But if you really care and don't want to wait, now would be the time to get it redone correctly, and you can even do "tiling" if you think standing water will still be an issue.

"Tiling" isn't what it sounds like,bits basically installing a big tube (3-6 inches wide) with a bunch of holes on it under ground. The water goes into the tube as a resovoir during the rain and then leeches into the ground over time as the ground dries out after the rain.

I'm familiar with it around farm fields, but it would work in a yard too. It's the same thing as drainage from a septic tank if that helps. Just didn't want you to think I meant burying flooring tiles under your yard.

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Rotor till the whole yard and start over, seed or sod. Or you could try one of those aerator deals where it pulls little plugs out of the yard, and leaves little holes. Not really sure, just guessing. Good luck.