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[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 5 points 6 hours ago

Remember that OpenAI were the people behind the DotA-playing model, back in 2017, called OpenAI Five.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 29 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Insane how true this is.

No wonder 1999 feels like a million years ago.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 44 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

I love how everyone is so desperate to make Gabe to be a terrible person.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's crazy for people to take a stance against him considering how much he's done to protect the hobby from less reputable corps.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 1 points 49 minutes ago

God imagine the world we'd live in if he didn't build modern child gambling with his own two hands

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

He may be a middle man rent seeking on the entire gaming industry, but you can't hate him because of all those great game series he never finished

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 26 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I can't hate him since he broke Windows monopoly in gaming.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -4 points 4 hours ago

And I can't hate Elon Musk because he promoted electric cars.

I love it when completely unaccountable industry monopolists make decisions for all of society when I agree with them. They're so cool!

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Oh no he runs a buisness, grow up.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 hours ago

A 'business' that doesn't produce the thing that makes it profit.

You sound like my landlord

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What would you call someone who has $1B worth of yachts while we're all struggling to eat and pay bills?

[–] Bigfishbest@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 4 points 9 hours ago

insert "they're the same thing" meme

[–] commander@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We acting like people in the art community weren't hyped up over AI until they started generating images. Before chatgpt, it was all about automating coding/it and other jobs that arent considered art. Back then it was all about how everyone could pursue their passions. The only people not excited were all the transportation employees and factory workers that had been told by the general public how excited they were to replace them

[–] loonsun@sh.itjust.works 29 points 23 hours ago

As a social scientist, pre Chat GPT NLP was like opening a whole new world of possibilities. We could finally at scale analyze one of the richest sources of behavioural data in an empirical statistically driven manner.

Now, even as I do research with NLP to continue these goals, I can't bring myself to every defend these tools. If they disappeared tomorrow, we'd lose a tool but we'd prevent so much undue suffering

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 274 points 1 day ago (22 children)

Obligatory reminder that billionaires are not our friends. But also, donating to AI research in 2018 is quite a different matter than if he had done so in recent years. Most people in tech were somewhere between neutral and enthusiastic towards machine learning back then and few foresaw the monster it would become. Doubt he's as enthusiastic nowadays, considering what it did to Valve's hardware ambitions.

[–] greybeard@feddit.online 168 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OpenAI, back then, was also a very different organization. They were mostly a non-profit, claiming to be a research organization who's goals were to ensure AI benefited all of humanity. Hell, I'd say Whisper, which that OpenAI did release, was very positive for humanity. It was when Sam Altman saw big dollar signs in GPT2+ that things started changing fast.

[–] zout@fedia.io 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Very much this, in 2023 there was a falling out between Altman and the board of OpenAI over this, and Altman was kicked out. However some big shareholders (Microsoft) made a stink and reversed it.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think many employees close to Altman also went to strike or theaten to leave. But I think he's bad for the (now) company. They should've stayed non-profit

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

It wasn't "many employees close to Altman". It was the entire company, including the people who initiated the process of getting him kicked out. The whole thing made absolutely no sense.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (20 children)

If you can mentally separate the technology from the capitalist orgy around trying to shoehorn LLMs into every possible thing, he's not wrong.

The technology has promise, but the reality of what it can be useful for is complete overshadowed by the hype frenzy declaring the end of all knowledge workers and creatives.

LLMs are significantly better at translation than anything we've been able to design, for instance. But that's not flashy, it doesn't generate seed funding or lure investors so it's largely not what people think of when they hear "AI".

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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 12 points 1 day ago

Right, he might be a little further down, but he’s absolutely still on the list. There are no good billionaires.

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[–] qaz@lemmy.world 104 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The writing was on the wall for years. I remember memes about Altman in machine learning forums/chatrooms circa 2020, and especially 2021.

Nothing's changed. Anyone in the space who actually looked at what he was doing, knew. Yet the bulk of the public (and investors) lapped the Tech Bro stuff up.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Aaron Swartz said Altman was a sociopath years before AI was a gleam in anyone's eye.

The technologies with the worst potential outcomes will always be pioneered by people with no ethical or moral hangups getting in the way.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Which unfortunately are the same techs that will be elevated by our present economic structure, precisely because those traits are what enable them to make (or grift) a shitload of money.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

see:

Leaded Fuel and CFCs - the same fuckin guy!? goddamn hope there is a hell

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

I'll save you a seat.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

Was this article commissioned by Tim Sweeney?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, I probably would have invested in AI prior to seeing LLMs in action, too, hoping I was funding the cool kind of AI, not this lame shit.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Look, there is one thing if does incredibly well. It makes a fantastic spelling checker.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

At that time it was still kind of a research project than a "it's going to take over everything" hype and FUD machine.

His opinions on AI today seem more enthusiastic than I would be, but well clear of the delusional level of AI-boosters.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 31 points 1 day ago

Before OpenAI about faced on being open?

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Back then they were still deep into research and the Open part in their name actually meant something. I don't like much about Musk but I feel like its true that they deceived people that supported their initial mission just to go private when the market went haywire for AI. I feel like them shedding their non-profit status shouldn't have been an option as so many people donated to them in good faith

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